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<blockquote data-quote="Felon" data-source="post: 861754" data-attributes="member: 8158"><p>After reading this I actually had a bottleneck of facetious remarks struggling to make it out of the starting gate. It's taken some sorting out, but here they are:</p><p></p><p>First, I'd like to nail down some dates if at all possible. When exactly were we officially <em>just</em> starting to change those pesky perceptions? Were they just changing them last year or last week, 'cuz if it was real recent I guess I must've been missing out on that. I know chicks--or women, or Gyno Americans, or whatever--got into <em>Vampire: the Masquerade</em>, but then White Wolf released all those godawful follow-ups and away the goth-girls went. Guess hob-nobbing with some smelly werewolf that can fire his claws out of his paws like blowdarts doesn't hold quite the same charm as Monsieur Lestat.</p><p></p><p>Once we've got that date covered, that brings us to question number two: when exactly did pictures of attractive women depicted in gaming products start to derail that noble struggle for respectability? Is the implication that this product has singlehandedly sabotaged those efforts? When did this dark age of sensuality descend upon us like an unholy rain of used rubbers?</p><p></p><p>Thirdly, supposing we were actually able to make that golden dream of mainstream acceptance come true, what exactly would the average gamer gain by that? I mean, even after we show them that there are hunky hipsters like yourself within the fold, there nonetheless <strong>are</strong> plenty of "stereotypical gamer geeks" (as you so contemptuously put it) out there that are overweight and unkempt and obnoxious. So, if these guys have to go on a diet and start taking showers every dad-blasted day and stop shoving little old ladies on the subway, you're gonna have to explain what's in it for us--err, I mean <em>them</em>. Do they get the benefit of some kind of grandfather clause after all the uber-cool RPG night clubs pop up in this Brave New World we speak of? Will we all get to slay orcs with supermodels and power brokers once our little hobby becomes trendy?</p><p></p><p>Fourth and finally, how does using sexuality to sell products distinguish gaming from other mainstream commercial industries? Don't average guys like T&A? Isn't that the whole point of Maxim, Swank, and all those motorcycle mags? If anything, doesn't a prurient interest the fairer gender serve to prove that "stereotypical gamer geeks" have the same ratio of Y-chromosomes as Joe Sixpack?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Felon, post: 861754, member: 8158"] After reading this I actually had a bottleneck of facetious remarks struggling to make it out of the starting gate. It's taken some sorting out, but here they are: First, I'd like to nail down some dates if at all possible. When exactly were we officially [i]just[/i] starting to change those pesky perceptions? Were they just changing them last year or last week, 'cuz if it was real recent I guess I must've been missing out on that. I know chicks--or women, or Gyno Americans, or whatever--got into [i]Vampire: the Masquerade[/i], but then White Wolf released all those godawful follow-ups and away the goth-girls went. Guess hob-nobbing with some smelly werewolf that can fire his claws out of his paws like blowdarts doesn't hold quite the same charm as Monsieur Lestat. Once we've got that date covered, that brings us to question number two: when exactly did pictures of attractive women depicted in gaming products start to derail that noble struggle for respectability? Is the implication that this product has singlehandedly sabotaged those efforts? When did this dark age of sensuality descend upon us like an unholy rain of used rubbers? Thirdly, supposing we were actually able to make that golden dream of mainstream acceptance come true, what exactly would the average gamer gain by that? I mean, even after we show them that there are hunky hipsters like yourself within the fold, there nonetheless [b]are[/b] plenty of "stereotypical gamer geeks" (as you so contemptuously put it) out there that are overweight and unkempt and obnoxious. So, if these guys have to go on a diet and start taking showers every dad-blasted day and stop shoving little old ladies on the subway, you're gonna have to explain what's in it for us--err, I mean [i]them[/i]. Do they get the benefit of some kind of grandfather clause after all the uber-cool RPG night clubs pop up in this Brave New World we speak of? Will we all get to slay orcs with supermodels and power brokers once our little hobby becomes trendy? Fourth and finally, how does using sexuality to sell products distinguish gaming from other mainstream commercial industries? Don't average guys like T&A? Isn't that the whole point of Maxim, Swank, and all those motorcycle mags? If anything, doesn't a prurient interest the fairer gender serve to prove that "stereotypical gamer geeks" have the same ratio of Y-chromosomes as Joe Sixpack? [/QUOTE]
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