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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Arlough" data-source="post: 5872641" data-attributes="member: 79335">Sorry to necro this thread, but while I believe my question is important, I don't think it merits its own thread as it is so closely tied to this thread's topic.What about swarms <insert dramatic music>Here is the glossary entry on swarms...Monster Manual (1)Swarm [Keyword]: A swarm is considered a single monster even though it is composed of several Tiny creatures. Most single swarms are Medium, but some can be larger. A swarm takes half damage from melee and ranged attacks. It is vulnerable to close and area attacks, as indicated in the monster’s stat block. A swarm is immune to forced movement (pull, push, and slide) effects from melee and ranged attacks. Close or area attacks that impose forced movement affect the swarm normally. A swarm can enter or move through an enemy’s space; this movement does not provoke opportunity attacks. An enemy can enter a space occupied by a swarm, but the space occupied by the swarm is considered difficult terrain, and doing so provokes an opportunity attack. A swarm can squeeze through any opening large enough to accommodate even one of its constituent creatures. For example, a swarm of bats can squeeze through any opening large enough for one of the bats to squeeze through. See the Player’s Handbook for squeezing rules. The underlining is, of course, mine.As indicated, swarms take half damage from most attacks (given that most attacks are melee or ranged), doesn't provoke opportunity attacks as it moves into a character's space, but does get opportunity attacks as a character moves out of it's space, and are immune to forced movement caused by melee or ranged attacks.It would seem to me that swarms are not just another monster feature, but instead enough of a power shift that they are almost their own quasi-class.I know my players believe that swarms are at least worth 1.5 monsters of their level.Does anyone else have a take on this?</blockquote>

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