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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Irda Ranger" data-source="post: 4197891" data-attributes="member: 1003">Respectfully, I decline your offer.  I am done with Mystic Theurges, Spell Thieves and Spellswords.  I will pay for new base classes that allow fully new things (such as a Barbarian, Druid or Bard), but I do not want (nor will I spend the time to make myself or pay for) a base class that's just a reshuffle of previously paid for base classes.Personally, while I'll need to see it how it works when I have all the rules, I'm pretty sure I'm fine with the new system.  The base classes we have are exactly the kind of strong archetypes I am looking for, and adding a little spice and flavor around the edges (without changing the core ingredients of the dish) is all the flex I need.Note the change in orange below (I also corrected two typos - use Firefox if you can).  I agree with this statement once you replace "classes" with "roles."  D&D is a team-based game, and as anyone who plays baseball knows, you can swap out right-handed fastballer for a left-handed knuckballer, but you can't swap out a pitcher for a second short-stop.  You just can't play the game that way.Now, D&D is a bit more flexible than baseball (there are many ways to kill things and take their stuff), but the point remains that Multiclassing must not be allowed to take a strong Defender and make him useless at both Defending and {Striking, Leading, Controlling}.  He must remain a strong Defender to properly support his team.  To use DreamChaser's terms, Multiclassing cannot let him give away the "critical" powers, only to swap around supplemental ones.I expect that WotC will release new classes (like the Swordmage) that ostensibly allow you to play a "Fighter-Mage", but they really won't.  The Swordmage is a Defender.  Period.  He will have what it take to be a Defender, which means that even if it's described as "Arcane powered magic", he won't be anything like a Fighter-Mage. No Sleep or Web.  That's for controllers.How "hybrid" classes fit in remains to be seen.</blockquote>

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