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<blockquote data-quote="Ariosto" data-source="post: 5078373" data-attributes="member: 80487"><p>If you are acquainted with <strong>any one</strong> of the 1974, 1978, 1979, 1981, 1983, 1989, etc., TSR editions of <em>Dungeons & Dragons</em>, then I can count on your knowing what I'm talking about when I'm talking "AC4, HD3+2" and so on.</p><p></p><p>There's no such thing as a "Hit Die" in 4E, and no such thing as most of the 4E jargon in old D&D. Is there a "Weaponsoul Dance" or "Chains of Sorrow" rule even in 3E?</p><p></p><p>That's the kind of not knowing what they're talking about that I'm talking about.</p><p></p><p>I made the point in direct response to the post I quoted, which alleged that TSR somehow screwed itself out of sales by offering both the "D&D" boxed sets and the "AD&D" hardbound books.</p><p></p><p>What actually happened was that TSR sold both sets, PLUS the modules and magazines and so on that were easily usable with both sets. An awful lot of people bought both B2 and G2, for instance, and both the <em>Fiend Folio</em> and the <em>Creature Catalogue</em>. The <em>Monster Manual</em>, the very first "Advanced" product, was in use with Original rules before there <strong>were</strong> any AD&D <em>Players Handbooks</em>, and kept on selling as long into the Second Edition AD&D era as retailers could get it from the distributors.</p><p></p><p>The different contents were most often complimentary. For instance, the <em>D&D Companion</em> offered the "War Machine" rules for conducting strategic military campaigns with paper and pencil, while the <em>Battle System</em> dealt in more grand-tactical detail with table-top battles using figurines.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ariosto, post: 5078373, member: 80487"] If you are acquainted with [b]any one[/b] of the 1974, 1978, 1979, 1981, 1983, 1989, etc., TSR editions of [i]Dungeons & Dragons[/i], then I can count on your knowing what I'm talking about when I'm talking "AC4, HD3+2" and so on. There's no such thing as a "Hit Die" in 4E, and no such thing as most of the 4E jargon in old D&D. Is there a "Weaponsoul Dance" or "Chains of Sorrow" rule even in 3E? That's the kind of not knowing what they're talking about that I'm talking about. I made the point in direct response to the post I quoted, which alleged that TSR somehow screwed itself out of sales by offering both the "D&D" boxed sets and the "AD&D" hardbound books. What actually happened was that TSR sold both sets, PLUS the modules and magazines and so on that were easily usable with both sets. An awful lot of people bought both B2 and G2, for instance, and both the [i]Fiend Folio[/i] and the [i]Creature Catalogue[/i]. The [i]Monster Manual[/i], the very first "Advanced" product, was in use with Original rules before there [b]were[/b] any AD&D [i]Players Handbooks[/i], and kept on selling as long into the Second Edition AD&D era as retailers could get it from the distributors. The different contents were most often complimentary. For instance, the [i]D&D Companion[/i] offered the "War Machine" rules for conducting strategic military campaigns with paper and pencil, while the [i]Battle System[/i] dealt in more grand-tactical detail with table-top battles using figurines. [/QUOTE]
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