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<blockquote data-quote="CapnZapp" data-source="post: 4953204" data-attributes="member: 12731"><p>Banning things isn't being a bad DM - it's being responsible. Less is more.</p><p></p><p>Making Dms out to be "bad" because they ban things is just this irritating player entitlement that rears its ugly head where WotC want to wrestle away control over campaigns from DMs to arrive at a position maximized for profit: "go ahead and buy all our books; if your DM doesn't like it, tell him or her we said it was okay!" </p><p></p><p>So threads like this is very useful - chances are if enough DMs ban an item, it suggests it really IS broken.</p><p></p><p>That said, it would be really nice if you could add a reference so we could see at a glance where each thing comes from (without having to look it up in the compendium).</p><p></p><p><u>Items</u></p><p>* Bloodclaw Weapons (AV1)</p><p>I haven't read up on the discussions, but I'm guessing the issue here is temporary hp? Perhaps it could be allowed if you got x1 (x1.5 for two-handers) instead of x2 (x3)...</p><p></p><p>* Reckless Weapons (AV1)</p><p>This really ought to have given a to hit penalty as well. Lots of games have fallen into the trap of paying for more damage with weaker defense; and its abusable in all of them - you simply use this only when you stand a good chance of not being attacked. Then you get extra damage for free.</p><p></p><p>* Iron Armbands / Bracers of Archery (AV1)</p><p>Would you consider halving the benefit, to not make them a must have?</p><p></p><p>* Phrenic Crown (AV1)</p><p>Is this really broken in itself, or just in combination with the broken build of the Orbizard? (Which Wizards haven't fixed YET)</p><p></p><p><u>Feats</u></p><p>* Dragonmark feats (I'd allow them for the "correct" races if I were running Eberron, though.)</p><p>No opinion. Disallowing these outside of Eberron is completely uncontroversial in my opinion.</p><p></p><p>* Any non-default-setting gods and their Channel Divinity feats require pre-approval, but in practice this mostly amounts to...</p><p>* Righteous Rage of Tempus, yes, even post-errata</p><p>OK - I'll have to check out any threads on this one - I really thought the "update" fixed any egregious brokenness?</p><p></p><p>* <em>Kind of</em> the Expertise feats, though since everyone gets the bonuses from them at 5/15/25 levels in my campaign, I'm not really taking anything away from my players.</p><p>Agreed. It's not the bonuses that are niggling, it's how WotC pretends those feat slots would be used for anything else, like these feats weren't utterly superior to everything else.</p><p></p><p><u>Powers</u></p><p>* Wiz 5: Grasp of the Grave (Dragon 372)</p><p>Hadn't noticed this one. Getting to auto-daze anybody at level 5 do sound powerful. Care to elaborate?</p><p></p><p><u>Backgrounds</u></p><p>* Anything that gives benefits beyond the limitations in PHB2, so pretty much no backgrounds from FR, Scales of War, or a few other Dragon articles</p><p>A given.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="CapnZapp, post: 4953204, member: 12731"] Banning things isn't being a bad DM - it's being responsible. Less is more. Making Dms out to be "bad" because they ban things is just this irritating player entitlement that rears its ugly head where WotC want to wrestle away control over campaigns from DMs to arrive at a position maximized for profit: "go ahead and buy all our books; if your DM doesn't like it, tell him or her we said it was okay!" So threads like this is very useful - chances are if enough DMs ban an item, it suggests it really IS broken. That said, it would be really nice if you could add a reference so we could see at a glance where each thing comes from (without having to look it up in the compendium). [U]Items[/U] * Bloodclaw Weapons (AV1) I haven't read up on the discussions, but I'm guessing the issue here is temporary hp? Perhaps it could be allowed if you got x1 (x1.5 for two-handers) instead of x2 (x3)... * Reckless Weapons (AV1) This really ought to have given a to hit penalty as well. Lots of games have fallen into the trap of paying for more damage with weaker defense; and its abusable in all of them - you simply use this only when you stand a good chance of not being attacked. Then you get extra damage for free. * Iron Armbands / Bracers of Archery (AV1) Would you consider halving the benefit, to not make them a must have? * Phrenic Crown (AV1) Is this really broken in itself, or just in combination with the broken build of the Orbizard? (Which Wizards haven't fixed YET) [U]Feats[/U] * Dragonmark feats (I'd allow them for the "correct" races if I were running Eberron, though.) No opinion. Disallowing these outside of Eberron is completely uncontroversial in my opinion. * Any non-default-setting gods and their Channel Divinity feats require pre-approval, but in practice this mostly amounts to... * Righteous Rage of Tempus, yes, even post-errata OK - I'll have to check out any threads on this one - I really thought the "update" fixed any egregious brokenness? * [I]Kind of[/I] the Expertise feats, though since everyone gets the bonuses from them at 5/15/25 levels in my campaign, I'm not really taking anything away from my players. Agreed. It's not the bonuses that are niggling, it's how WotC pretends those feat slots would be used for anything else, like these feats weren't utterly superior to everything else. [U]Powers[/U] * Wiz 5: Grasp of the Grave (Dragon 372) Hadn't noticed this one. Getting to auto-daze anybody at level 5 do sound powerful. Care to elaborate? [U]Backgrounds[/U] * Anything that gives benefits beyond the limitations in PHB2, so pretty much no backgrounds from FR, Scales of War, or a few other Dragon articles A given. [/QUOTE]
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