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<blockquote data-quote="Zinovia" data-source="post: 4967723" data-attributes="member: 57373">It is true that for a striker, or pretty much any melee character, there are no more generally useful arm items than the Iron Armbands of Power.&nbsp; It is for that reason that I am disallowing them.&nbsp; They are flat out better than any comparable, or even higher level, option for that slot.&nbsp; They are better than a feat.&nbsp; &nbsp; Won't banning items diminish your characters' options? No, because it opens up all those other arm items as valid choices, which currently they are not when compared to the IAoP.&nbsp; From an optimization standpoint, IAoP are currently so much better than anything else that you would be foolish to take any other arm item for a melee character.&nbsp; The choices are to raise every other arm item up to the same level, or to remove the one item that is better than everything else. But doing lots of extra damage is fun!Yes, but sitting there watching someone else laying down the hurt while you are doing substantially less damage with your striker is not so much fun.&nbsp; Four of the five characters in my group are melee.&nbsp; If they all picked up the iron armbands, it would leave the warlock without a comparable damage boost.&nbsp; Warlocks are as much controllers as strikers, but let's not exacerbate the damage discrepancy already present with superior weapons available to the melee characters.&nbsp; Giving them IAoP just makes it worse.What about the grind?I'm not concerned about it in this particular group.&nbsp; We kill things plenty fast with 2 strikers and an assault swordmage in the 5 person party.&nbsp; If grind were to become an issue, it can be fixed invisibly on my side of the screen by reducing monster HP, rather than increasing damage done by the characters through the use of items.&nbsp; You're just trying to win!Sure I am.&nbsp; I win if the players are having fun playing the game.&nbsp; I win by ensuring that no one is sitting there feeling jealous because their character is less effective than everyone else's.&nbsp; I win by giving them a variety of items that let them make their characters distinct from each other.&nbsp; I win by letting them feel clever when using items to thwart the special abilities or high damage hits of my bad guys.&nbsp; Situational items often take more thought as to when you will use them, which I feel better engages the players than adding another plus onto their damage formulae.&nbsp; Yes, I am out to win.&nbsp; In a good way.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Zinovia, post: 4967723, member: 57373"] It is true that for a striker, or pretty much any melee character, there are no more generally useful arm items than the Iron Armbands of Power. It is for that reason that I am disallowing them. They are flat out better than any comparable, or even higher level, option for that slot. They are better than a feat. [i]Won't banning items diminish your characters' options?[/i] No, because it opens up all those other arm items as valid choices, which currently they are not when compared to the IAoP. From an optimization standpoint, IAoP are currently so much better than anything else that you would be foolish to take any other arm item for a melee character. The choices are to raise every other arm item up to the same level, or to remove the one item that is better than everything else. [i]But doing lots of extra damage is fun![/i] Yes, but sitting there watching someone else laying down the hurt while you are doing substantially less damage with your striker is not so much fun. Four of the five characters in my group are melee. If they all picked up the iron armbands, it would leave the warlock without a comparable damage boost. Warlocks are as much controllers as strikers, but let's not exacerbate the damage discrepancy already present with superior weapons available to the melee characters. Giving them IAoP just makes it worse. [i]What about the grind?[/i] I'm not concerned about it in this particular group. We kill things plenty fast with 2 strikers and an assault swordmage in the 5 person party. If grind were to become an issue, it can be fixed invisibly on my side of the screen by reducing monster HP, rather than increasing damage done by the characters through the use of items. [i]You're just trying to win![/i] Sure I am. I win if the players are having fun playing the game. I win by ensuring that no one is sitting there feeling jealous because their character is less effective than everyone else's. I win by giving them a variety of items that let them make their characters distinct from each other. I win by letting them feel clever when using items to thwart the special abilities or high damage hits of my bad guys. Situational items often take more thought as to when you will use them, which I feel better engages the players than adding another plus onto their damage formulae. Yes, I am out to win. In a good way. [/QUOTE]

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