Menu
News
All News
Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
Pathfinder
Starfinder
Warhammer
2d20 System
Year Zero Engine
Industry News
Reviews
Dragon Reflections
White Dwarf Reflections
Columns
Weekly Digests
Weekly News Digest
Freebies, Sales & Bundles
RPG Print News
RPG Crowdfunding News
Game Content
ENterplanetary DimENsions
Mythological Figures
Opinion
Worlds of Design
Peregrine's Nest
RPG Evolution
Other Columns
From the Freelancing Frontline
Monster ENcyclopedia
WotC/TSR Alumni Look Back
4 Hours w/RSD (Ryan Dancey)
The Road to 3E (Jonathan Tweet)
Greenwood's Realms (Ed Greenwood)
Drawmij's TSR (Jim Ward)
Community
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions, OSR, & D&D Variants
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Resources
Wiki
Pages
Latest activity
Media
New media
New comments
Search media
Downloads
Latest reviews
Search resources
EN Publishing
Store
EN5ider
Adventures in ZEITGEIST
Awfully Cheerful Engine
What's OLD is NEW
Judge Dredd & The Worlds Of 2000AD
War of the Burning Sky
Level Up: Advanced 5E
Events & Releases
Upcoming Events
Private Events
Featured Events
Socials!
EN Publishing
Twitter
BlueSky
Facebook
Instagram
EN World
BlueSky
YouTube
Facebook
Twitter
Twitch
Podcast
Features
Top 5 RPGs Compiled Charts 2004-Present
Adventure Game Industry Market Research Summary (RPGs) V1.0
Ryan Dancey: Acquiring TSR
Q&A With Gary Gygax
D&D Rules FAQs
TSR, WotC, & Paizo: A Comparative History
D&D Pronunciation Guide
Million Dollar TTRPG Kickstarters
Tabletop RPG Podcast Hall of Fame
Eric Noah's Unofficial D&D 3rd Edition News
D&D in the Mainstream
D&D & RPG History
About Morrus
Log in
Register
What's new
Search
Search
Search titles only
By:
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions, OSR, & D&D Variants
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Menu
Log in
Register
Install the app
Install
Upgrade your account to a Community Supporter account and remove most of the site ads.
Rocket your D&D 5E and Level Up: Advanced 5E games into space! Alpha Star Magazine Is Launching... Right Now!
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
The New Style
JavaScript is disabled. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding.
You are using an out of date browser. It may not display this or other websites correctly.
You should upgrade or use an
alternative browser
.
Reply to thread
Message
<blockquote data-quote="WizarDru" data-source="post: 3783174" data-attributes="member: 151"><p>I wouldn't say you need to watch more kid's shows, but your list is pretty scatter-shot. Avatar, for example, is light years ahead of the D&D cartoon show. A continuing, <em>advancing</em> storyline with deep character development, excellent mythology, political intrigue and far more action. Any of the DC animated universe shows manages to straddle the fine-line of kid's entertainment and well-done shows. W.I.T.C.H., while yet another cross-media license, manages to rise somewhat above it's source material. The most recent Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles series was much better than any previous series, being much more faithful to the original material while still managing to make it kid-appropriate. Kim Possible manages to turn the male-female dynamic on it's ear and be very funny, to boot. Shows like Hey, Arnold and As Told By Ginger managed to be effective kid's comedies that also happened to be smart and wise beyond their years. And I'm not even counting different anime shows.</p><p></p><p>The D&D cartoon was good, but I think rose-colored glasses are in effect here. Celebrim's list is almost entirely licensed shows that were backed by a toy line. The 80s was RIFE with shows <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyetic" target="_blank">that were made to support a toy line</a>, not the other way around. That shows like the Transformers, The Gummy Bears and The Real Ghostbusters managed to rise above that fails to remember all the AWFUL shows that also came out then. Sure, everyone remembers Thundercats...how many people are hugely nostalgic for Silverhawks? Tigersharks? Anyone? Foofur? Pound Puppies? Snorks? The Go-Bots? Rubik the Amazing Cube? Turbo Teen? Camp Candy? PUNKY BREWSTER? Every last tired retread of the Flinstones and Scooby-Doo? Yikes.</p><p></p><p>I mean, let's look at the shows side-by-side with it in the line-up, shall we? Prepare yourselves for some pain. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p><p><img src="http://farm1.static.flickr.com/132/404122665_aedd7e8845.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " data-size="" style="" /></p><p><img src="http://farm1.static.flickr.com/130/404122668_311ce1208e.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " data-size="" style="" /></p><p></p><p>And the D&D cartoon timeslot, at least on the East Coast, was shown at 10:30 originally, iirc. Later, it got shoved to the 11:30 AM slot which was always the sign of imminent death, as shows were often pre-empted for sports events in those slots.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="WizarDru, post: 3783174, member: 151"] I wouldn't say you need to watch more kid's shows, but your list is pretty scatter-shot. Avatar, for example, is light years ahead of the D&D cartoon show. A continuing, [i]advancing[/i] storyline with deep character development, excellent mythology, political intrigue and far more action. Any of the DC animated universe shows manages to straddle the fine-line of kid's entertainment and well-done shows. W.I.T.C.H., while yet another cross-media license, manages to rise somewhat above it's source material. The most recent Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles series was much better than any previous series, being much more faithful to the original material while still managing to make it kid-appropriate. Kim Possible manages to turn the male-female dynamic on it's ear and be very funny, to boot. Shows like Hey, Arnold and As Told By Ginger managed to be effective kid's comedies that also happened to be smart and wise beyond their years. And I'm not even counting different anime shows. The D&D cartoon was good, but I think rose-colored glasses are in effect here. Celebrim's list is almost entirely licensed shows that were backed by a toy line. The 80s was RIFE with shows [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyetic]that were made to support a toy line[/url], not the other way around. That shows like the Transformers, The Gummy Bears and The Real Ghostbusters managed to rise above that fails to remember all the AWFUL shows that also came out then. Sure, everyone remembers Thundercats...how many people are hugely nostalgic for Silverhawks? Tigersharks? Anyone? Foofur? Pound Puppies? Snorks? The Go-Bots? Rubik the Amazing Cube? Turbo Teen? Camp Candy? PUNKY BREWSTER? Every last tired retread of the Flinstones and Scooby-Doo? Yikes. I mean, let's look at the shows side-by-side with it in the line-up, shall we? Prepare yourselves for some pain. :) [IMG]http://farm1.static.flickr.com/132/404122665_aedd7e8845.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://farm1.static.flickr.com/130/404122668_311ce1208e.jpg[/IMG] And the D&D cartoon timeslot, at least on the East Coast, was shown at 10:30 originally, iirc. Later, it got shoved to the 11:30 AM slot which was always the sign of imminent death, as shows were often pre-empted for sports events in those slots. [/QUOTE]
Insert quotes…
Verification
Post reply
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
The New Style
Top
