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<blockquote data-quote="Shallown" data-source="post: 1376380" data-attributes="member: 1368">Okay UMD is a horribly abusable skill. I think making it cross class and not exclusive as before was a boo-boo. You don't even have to try hard to make it abusable.Just cross class it buy an item that gives a +5 to skill in it and starting at mid levels you can use wands pretty much without worry.&nbsp; My players know about this but have learned that if they abuse the rules I abuse the rules. the did it with grappling everything under the sun so then did I. They now no it is a viable tactic at times but don't abuse it. I have run characters in 3.0 who had it as a class skill and just kicked butt with it. Now you can buy those wands of fireball or lightning and the rogue had a back up boom stick with easy to make rolls. At 10th level I failed more or less on a 2 or less. It gets nasty quick if you let players abuse it. So if they use the arguement that it is legal and a great tactic then its legal and a great tactic for the bad guys. Later</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Shallown, post: 1376380, member: 1368"] Okay UMD is a horribly abusable skill. I think making it cross class and not exclusive as before was a boo-boo. You don't even have to try hard to make it abusable. Just cross class it buy an item that gives a +5 to skill in it and starting at mid levels you can use wands pretty much without worry. My players know about this but have learned that if they abuse the rules I abuse the rules. the did it with grappling everything under the sun so then did I. They now no it is a viable tactic at times but don't abuse it. I have run characters in 3.0 who had it as a class skill and just kicked butt with it. Now you can buy those wands of fireball or lightning and the rogue had a back up boom stick with easy to make rolls. At 10th level I failed more or less on a 2 or less. It gets nasty quick if you let players abuse it. So if they use the arguement that it is legal and a great tactic then its legal and a great tactic for the bad guys. Later [/QUOTE]

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