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<blockquote data-quote="Neonchameleon" data-source="post: 9124462" data-attributes="member: 87792"><p>The question I'm not sure about is how much actual dipping gets done. (I don't mind "genuine multiclassing"). But there are only a few actually obnoxious single level dips, and most of them are (I hope) now a whole lot more niche.</p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Paladins dipping a single level of warlock for the hexblade/pact of the blade is now a choice that trades offence for defence rather than a clear win. This side-balance came in thanks to the reworked feat system so feats like Great Weapon Master, Polearm Master, Shield Expert, Sentinel, Charger, and Mounted Combatant all add to Str but not to Cha. (That's not to say the War Caster/+2 Cha ASI build doesn't work, but it's definitely got much less offence so there is a cost)</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Wizards dipping a single level of cleric is now a rare thing when you can get medium armour + shields for a first level feat</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Sorcerers and bards dipping 1-2 levels of warlock for Eldritch Blast will with luck be blocked by EB scaling with warlock level (or just being a class feature) in the final version</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Coffeelocks - ????? WotC didn't block the coffeelock by changing "You can expend a spell slot to gain a number of Sorcery Points equal to the slot’s level " to "You can expend a <em>spellcasting</em> spell slot..." to rule out Pact Magic.</li> </ul><p>And on preview Eldritch Sight is basically always up. Detect Magic as a ritual takes ten minutes per cast. I think the invocation is too weak - but Detect Magic as a ritual is not a replacement.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Neonchameleon, post: 9124462, member: 87792"] The question I'm not sure about is how much actual dipping gets done. (I don't mind "genuine multiclassing"). But there are only a few actually obnoxious single level dips, and most of them are (I hope) now a whole lot more niche. [LIST] [*]Paladins dipping a single level of warlock for the hexblade/pact of the blade is now a choice that trades offence for defence rather than a clear win. This side-balance came in thanks to the reworked feat system so feats like Great Weapon Master, Polearm Master, Shield Expert, Sentinel, Charger, and Mounted Combatant all add to Str but not to Cha. (That's not to say the War Caster/+2 Cha ASI build doesn't work, but it's definitely got much less offence so there is a cost) [*]Wizards dipping a single level of cleric is now a rare thing when you can get medium armour + shields for a first level feat [*]Sorcerers and bards dipping 1-2 levels of warlock for Eldritch Blast will with luck be blocked by EB scaling with warlock level (or just being a class feature) in the final version [*]Coffeelocks - ????? WotC didn't block the coffeelock by changing "You can expend a spell slot to gain a number of Sorcery Points equal to the slot’s level " to "You can expend a [I]spellcasting[/I] spell slot..." to rule out Pact Magic. [/LIST] And on preview Eldritch Sight is basically always up. Detect Magic as a ritual takes ten minutes per cast. I think the invocation is too weak - but Detect Magic as a ritual is not a replacement. [/QUOTE]
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