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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Mistwell" data-source="post: 9127894" data-attributes="member: 2525">The conclusion you drew was wrong. Adjusting for each of the three objections you made (two of which were flawed, one badly so) it STILL out damages all martial classes for damage. Which is a sure sign it needs to be nerfed. But you're trying to spin it "I was able to shave a few points damage off this and make my own completely unfounded assumptions about future nerfs to other stuff so it must be all tossed out!" and that's not an accurate conclusion. You're spinning. All Treantmonk did was assess it with the existing rules - which is what the playtest outright states should be done to assess it right now. You're adding stuff to spin. It's a bad look. If we don't have data on changing Spirit Shroud, then it's there for example. If you average crits, then they're fine in this analysis - and you HAVE to average them if you're going to keep it consistent for all analysis. You don't toss it out because "Stuff is random so maybe you never hit even!"There is nothing click-baiting about Treantmonks stuff. That's not him. That's never been him. And there is no reason for you to make that claim about him since you, apparently, don't know much about his videos.</blockquote>