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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Kinematics" data-source="post: 9139179" data-attributes="member: 6932123">That number was from the Shroud build, so 2d8, not 1d6. That's an extra 5.5, plus crits. Though I was also just estimating based on the graph, not checking the exact values. For more exact values, I get 64.325 DPR at level 12 (assurance of 20 Cha) with PAM/glaive, compared to 52.625 with greatsword and no PAM. At level 20 (which also gets Foresight and 22 Cha), it goes from 72.161 with the greatsword to 87.664 with PAM.So a range of +12 to +15.5.To break it down at level 20, the greatsword does 1.4 more damage per primary hit, for 4.2 more damage over three attacks. The glaive gives 8.34 damage with the bonus hit, +2.94 damage from Lifedrinker, and +8.44 from Shroud. Net gain of 15.5 per round. (All numbers already factor in accuracy and crits. There's also some hidden rounding in the less significant digits, since I'm only showing two or three decimal digits.)You can look at the current version of my spreadsheet <a href="https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/12EDhauUzrIGJJHd38UDVq3o_z3FPbkV1?rtpof=true&usp=drive_fs" target="_blank">here</a>. It's a bit complicated, so feel free to ask questions.I'm fairly sure it doesn't qualify, but I can see it argued that it does. Since I think the weight of the argument is on the "does not qualify" side, I didn't include them, so as to not overinflate the panic over the warlock's damage potential (which is strong enough even without that). If I thought things weighed more towards "does qualify", I'd include them, with the caveat that it might be an overestimate.</blockquote>

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