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<blockquote data-quote="Guest&nbsp; 85555" data-source="post: 9545716"><p>I am not 100% sure what the point is, but I mean this can go either way. The biblical account of human origins was used to justify racism as well. But sure you can have a cosmology where a god create a people and they all belong to one race/species/kind </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Sure, and in the real world I think this is true (not that we are descended from two people made from earth, but that there is one humanity. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Why though? Yes you can do that. You can describe gnomes and elves as belonging to the same group as humans. But the whole point of fantasy races is to imagine a world where you have these groups like you had in human history where we shared the world with something closer to subspecies who significantly different from us. I like the idea that elves are so different from humans they would have a fundamentally different way of seeing the world (because they are physically different, mentally different and extremely long lived). To me that is much more interesting than they are just the same as humans. But I do think this raises a point: is the objection here really about language or is it more about discomfort with imaging worlds where you have effectively different species of human (obviously species falls short when you bring magical origins into play but I think the meaning gets across).</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Guest 85555, post: 9545716"] I am not 100% sure what the point is, but I mean this can go either way. The biblical account of human origins was used to justify racism as well. But sure you can have a cosmology where a god create a people and they all belong to one race/species/kind Sure, and in the real world I think this is true (not that we are descended from two people made from earth, but that there is one humanity. Why though? Yes you can do that. You can describe gnomes and elves as belonging to the same group as humans. But the whole point of fantasy races is to imagine a world where you have these groups like you had in human history where we shared the world with something closer to subspecies who significantly different from us. I like the idea that elves are so different from humans they would have a fundamentally different way of seeing the world (because they are physically different, mentally different and extremely long lived). To me that is much more interesting than they are just the same as humans. But I do think this raises a point: is the objection here really about language or is it more about discomfort with imaging worlds where you have effectively different species of human (obviously species falls short when you bring magical origins into play but I think the meaning gets across). [/QUOTE]
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