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<blockquote data-quote="Gez" data-source="post: 2313015" data-attributes="member: 1328"><p>You know, faced with the choice between a drow-heavy campaign and a desmodu-heavy campaign, I'd choose the bats. I'd play a desmodu and call him Lars. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p>That they tried, with the Fiend Folio, to create the "new githyanki" is not a shocking revelation, as it was already in the <a href="http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/ps/20030404a" target="_blank">designer interview</a> (search the page for "githyanki").</p><p></p><p>The contenders were, I think:</p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Ethergaunt (very cool villains, but useless for PCs, too smart and too weird and too genocidally xenophobic to become D&D party members).</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Shadar-Kai (they have potential, but seem overlooked, maybe they tried too much to be cool).</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Kaorti (again, very cool villains, but very bad PCs).</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Maug (cool construct PC race, but sadly for them, the nimblewrights from MM2 predated them, and the Warforged are not crippled by a massive ECL).</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">The Nerra. They're rather nice, but they look too much like the Silver Surfer.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Maybe the Khaasta and/or Saarkrith -- don't know whether they were new or not.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Maybe the Jackal Lord.</li> </ul><p></p><p>To answer your other question, I think that "long-lasting coolness" derives more from first exposure than from expansion.</p><p></p><p>Example: reading the Creature Collection when it came out, yowza, one monster struck me as being totally awesomely cool, the Savant Hydra. Details were sketchy, rules were bogus (it's the first printing CC!), and nobody ever expanded on them, but they're still cool.</p><p>Example: Drow where considered cool, so dozens of novels, sourcebooks, and adventures have been released, all drow-centric, and they're spawned an entire subcategory of comics, the drow manga webcomic. Most hard core gamers here will agree that drow were more cool back when the FF entry and the GDQ series was all we got about them.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Gez, post: 2313015, member: 1328"] You know, faced with the choice between a drow-heavy campaign and a desmodu-heavy campaign, I'd choose the bats. I'd play a desmodu and call him Lars. :) That they tried, with the Fiend Folio, to create the "new githyanki" is not a shocking revelation, as it was already in the [url=http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/ps/20030404a]designer interview[/url] (search the page for "githyanki"). The contenders were, I think: [list] [*]Ethergaunt (very cool villains, but useless for PCs, too smart and too weird and too genocidally xenophobic to become D&D party members). [*]Shadar-Kai (they have potential, but seem overlooked, maybe they tried too much to be cool). [*]Kaorti (again, very cool villains, but very bad PCs). [*]Maug (cool construct PC race, but sadly for them, the nimblewrights from MM2 predated them, and the Warforged are not crippled by a massive ECL). [*]The Nerra. They're rather nice, but they look too much like the Silver Surfer. [*]Maybe the Khaasta and/or Saarkrith -- don't know whether they were new or not. [*]Maybe the Jackal Lord. [/list] To answer your other question, I think that "long-lasting coolness" derives more from first exposure than from expansion. Example: reading the Creature Collection when it came out, yowza, one monster struck me as being totally awesomely cool, the Savant Hydra. Details were sketchy, rules were bogus (it's the first printing CC!), and nobody ever expanded on them, but they're still cool. Example: Drow where considered cool, so dozens of novels, sourcebooks, and adventures have been released, all drow-centric, and they're spawned an entire subcategory of comics, the drow manga webcomic. Most hard core gamers here will agree that drow were more cool back when the FF entry and the GDQ series was all we got about them. [/QUOTE]
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