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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Yaarel" data-source="post: 8583978" data-attributes="member: 58172">The immaterial aspects of the multiverse are metaphysical territory, literally.In the separate quality of the "soul" persisting in the Shadowfell, it is an aspect of consciousness that is there. Individual "souls" can suffer if they dont rest.The souls that are trapped in the samsara of Ravenloft suffer. The nonsouls are just the shapes of the clouds in the mist.Only the "material plane" has matter. All other planes are immaterial. The ether with its fey and shadow, are a spirit world.There is no "meat" in the spirit world.That said, the ghostly bodies are virtual bodies that have the form of meat. But these ghosts are made out of ethereal forces.A tape recorder can record a voice that sounds sorrowful. A computer algorithm can imitate one.This is the torment of the darklords, they suffer in isolation.To have no soul means to be an empty shell, exactly.No suffering, no feeling, no consciousness: no soul.The echoes of a life misspent, torment the darklord.Empty shells are like the Unseen Servant spell and like the "servants" of the Magnificent Mansion spell.There is no suffering, nor consciousness. They are soulless automatons.That is the karma. The monsters treated people as if people dont matter. Now they exist in a place where people really dont matter.Sadly, a few souls are trapped in this hel. But hopefully they can escape from such dysfunctionality.Yes. Ravenloft really is that horrific.</blockquote>

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