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<blockquote data-quote="kengar" data-source="post: 347105" data-attributes="member: 3230"><p>I disagree; but there you have it in a nutshell. I could actually just stop there but I'm not that clever <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin :D" data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /></p><p></p><p>I don't think enjoying things like killing is a <em>necessary</em> part of evil. Just as a Good-aligned character might want to kill something, an Evil person might want someone to live. Remember, the opposite of love is NOT hate; it is indifference. Any person who <em>enjoys</em> suffering and carnage is very likely evil; but what about someone who doesn't necessarily <em>enjoy</em> torturing people (it deosn't thrill them, etc.) but will do it without any real reluctance beause it's seen as an efficient way to get information? That's <em>Neutral</em>??</p><p></p><p>As far as power goes, alignment has more to do with the means than the ends. A Lawful Good Paladin might slay the dragon, win the hand of the princess and eventually become king. A Chaotic Evil Barbarian might slaughter everyone that stood in his way, become chieftain of all the tribes and sweep through "civilization" like a plague, becoming the ruler of a continent. Both achieved similiar ends, but look at how they did it.</p><p></p><p>By my definitions, the LG Pal might very well see himself as the most qualified to rule; but he would judge his fitness for rulership on <em>how well it would serve the group and his values as a whole</em>. The CE Barb saw himself as the best ruler too; perhaps because he <em>wasn't going to let anyone else tell him what to do</em>.</p><p></p><p>To re-quote just one part of your post:</p><p></p><p>"only evil characters have a desire to dominate others specifically because he enjoys treating other beings as inferior and unworthy"</p><p></p><p>I would agree with you in that, anyone who thought this way would very likely be of evil alignment. However, I would <em>not</em> say that in order to be evil, one <em>must</em> think that way.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Again, IMHO, etc.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="kengar, post: 347105, member: 3230"] I disagree; but there you have it in a nutshell. I could actually just stop there but I'm not that clever :D I don't think enjoying things like killing is a [i]necessary[/i] part of evil. Just as a Good-aligned character might want to kill something, an Evil person might want someone to live. Remember, the opposite of love is NOT hate; it is indifference. Any person who [i]enjoys[/i] suffering and carnage is very likely evil; but what about someone who doesn't necessarily [i]enjoy[/i] torturing people (it deosn't thrill them, etc.) but will do it without any real reluctance beause it's seen as an efficient way to get information? That's [i]Neutral[/i]?? As far as power goes, alignment has more to do with the means than the ends. A Lawful Good Paladin might slay the dragon, win the hand of the princess and eventually become king. A Chaotic Evil Barbarian might slaughter everyone that stood in his way, become chieftain of all the tribes and sweep through "civilization" like a plague, becoming the ruler of a continent. Both achieved similiar ends, but look at how they did it. By my definitions, the LG Pal might very well see himself as the most qualified to rule; but he would judge his fitness for rulership on [i]how well it would serve the group and his values as a whole[/i]. The CE Barb saw himself as the best ruler too; perhaps because he [i]wasn't going to let anyone else tell him what to do[/i]. To re-quote just one part of your post: "only evil characters have a desire to dominate others specifically because he enjoys treating other beings as inferior and unworthy" I would agree with you in that, anyone who thought this way would very likely be of evil alignment. However, I would [i]not[/i] say that in order to be evil, one [i]must[/i] think that way. Again, IMHO, etc. [/QUOTE]
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