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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Benly" data-source="post: 4271270" data-attributes="member: 67591">As I've said, I never claimed this was some kind of absolute flawless defense. Grabs and delayed actions (or, for that matter, delayed-action grabs) are perfectly legitimate responses to it. Nonetheless, the fact that it requires such responses does indicate how useful a survival tool it can be.The particular character build I'm thinking of has a +16 stealth check at level 8; at a quick (and certainly not comprehensive) glance it seems like most high-perception creatures at level 8 are in the 9-11 range and things like brutes tend to be much lower than that. (There are exceptions, such as the galeb duhr with high Perception and tremorsense, which renders stealth moot.) The enemy beatsticks are simply unlikely to be able to target you without very specific direction from spotters, and you will have a good chance of them missing even then.Regarding grabs and immobilization, I will note that it is probably wise for a Fey-pact warlock to keep a Rod of Harvest loaded with a Misty Step so that he can get out of such circumstances. This is generally a good idea anyway, I would say.Now, I will concede that the build I am considering uses most of the character's heroic feats and his armor slot to power this trick. On the one hand, this is a fairly significant cost for a fairly significant benefit; on the other hand, what else are you using a warlock's heroic feats for? Improved Misty Step is of course on the list, but other than that there aren't many worthwhile options. Likewise, the list of heroic-tier armor options better than sylvan for the warlock is fairly limited, although Bloodcut certainly makes a strong case.</blockquote>

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