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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Ginnel" data-source="post: 4271860" data-attributes="member: 66058">Ok nice descriptions but the -2 modifier this provides is comparitive to the attacker being restrained or prone at range or even cover OR the target being in a heavy snow storm of foliage, or like being right next to someone who is in Heavy foliage or heavy smoke, thats what the PHB states as concealment as and that is what the warlock has.Since it doesn't state any squares around the warlock are effected/harder to see through we can safely assume (hopefully <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /> ) that the lock is in some kind of heavy obscuring terrain that effects only one square. Now the application of the warlock trying to hide here should not grant full hidden ability from everyone, it would be the same as a thief being in a 5ft by 5ft bush, hiding at the best would grant, if your being generous total concealment (-5 to hit), think of this as solid snake hiding in his cardboard box of a thief running around the battlefield with said tree on his back and in his hand, I just can't see how the lock will go "right i'll stealth in this localised effect in my square so they won't know where I am, I am a genius!"Example of playBoris the WarlockBoris' player: I've moved 3 squares and shadowalked, black shadows envelope my svelt frame and perfectly pointed beardDM: Ok next actionBoris' player: ah but wait I'm going to stealth during that move action so no one can see me *boris' player strokes an imaginery goatee*DM: erm you mean in that localised effect centered on youBoris' player: Well of course, I mean Boris is invincible!!DM: *sighs*So what I'm trying to get at is seeing as its only -2 equivelent to the aforementioned combat disadvantages or terrain it should in no way grant the ninja warlock total hidey-ness as an equivelent cardboard box or handy moveable shrub wouldn't unless the opponents are distracted as mentioned in the PHB.</blockquote>

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