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<blockquote data-quote="RigaMortus2" data-source="post: 3441393" data-attributes="member: 11586"><p>You think it is a lot of uses? You only get 3 uses at level 1 (and level 2), and you don't get any ki abilities until level 2 anyway (ghost step). I figured, between ghost stepping and ki dodge, you'll burn through your uses pretty quickly, and with no +2 to Will saves, there is no incentive to keep 1 ki point in your pool. The recovery mechanic is similiar to the Warblade, except you are gimped on damage, since you'll be sacrificing sudden strike damage to gain ki back on a 1d6 to 1 point basis. Also, if you fight creatures immune to sudden strike, you are kinda stuck until after combat, so it's not 100% guaranteed. I think the ki pool tops out at 14 uses per combat by level 19, and you can fill 10 of those uses with 1 sudden strike -10d6 damage...</p><p></p><p>It's not finished yet, but I was going to add some alternate ki uses. Like instead of the Complete Scoundrel feat which lets you expend 1 more ki point to keep a ki ability active for an additional round, I was going to build that into the class as a feature. I want to encourage someone to burn through their ki pool if they want to, or be conservative if they want to.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I thought about this, but my vision of a Ninja doesn't include them wearing a chain shirt or hide armor. Padded armor I can see. YMMV.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I don't think uncanny dodge comes up all that much to be worried about it. I think some classes should have weaknesses such as this to help balance them out, especially now since you will rarely run out of ghost step attempts, it will just cost you a round and damage to regain them. For someone who is concerned about bypassing Uncanny Dodge, would Improved Feint not help?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="RigaMortus2, post: 3441393, member: 11586"] You think it is a lot of uses? You only get 3 uses at level 1 (and level 2), and you don't get any ki abilities until level 2 anyway (ghost step). I figured, between ghost stepping and ki dodge, you'll burn through your uses pretty quickly, and with no +2 to Will saves, there is no incentive to keep 1 ki point in your pool. The recovery mechanic is similiar to the Warblade, except you are gimped on damage, since you'll be sacrificing sudden strike damage to gain ki back on a 1d6 to 1 point basis. Also, if you fight creatures immune to sudden strike, you are kinda stuck until after combat, so it's not 100% guaranteed. I think the ki pool tops out at 14 uses per combat by level 19, and you can fill 10 of those uses with 1 sudden strike -10d6 damage... It's not finished yet, but I was going to add some alternate ki uses. Like instead of the Complete Scoundrel feat which lets you expend 1 more ki point to keep a ki ability active for an additional round, I was going to build that into the class as a feature. I want to encourage someone to burn through their ki pool if they want to, or be conservative if they want to. I thought about this, but my vision of a Ninja doesn't include them wearing a chain shirt or hide armor. Padded armor I can see. YMMV. I don't think uncanny dodge comes up all that much to be worried about it. I think some classes should have weaknesses such as this to help balance them out, especially now since you will rarely run out of ghost step attempts, it will just cost you a round and damage to regain them. For someone who is concerned about bypassing Uncanny Dodge, would Improved Feint not help? [/QUOTE]
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