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<blockquote data-quote="Janx" data-source="post: 6150644" data-attributes="member: 8835">Good points.One thing to ponder as you indicate, is whether you'll be driving away, staying put or walking.&nbsp; Big world of difference.&nbsp; The gas grill is for sheltering in place aftermath when the power's down for 2-21 days depending on where you live.I'd leave tools behind if I was walking.&nbsp; Carry the tarp, rope, knife, lighters, candles and food/water.&nbsp; Leaving by car lets you carry a bit more, though one should still choose wisely (leave the grill at home).The mormon I talked to gave a 5 year example for stocking up.&nbsp; That sounds ridiculous for any normal household to have warehousing for that much food.&nbsp; 6 months might be more viable.&nbsp; Still, a few cans of veggies/baked beans and couple packs of ramen noodles could keep you fed in a small disaster without requiring a large warehouse.&nbsp; I have a SMALL pantry in my kitchen.&nbsp; I would recommend that when you buy non-perishable food, write the date on the container.&nbsp; canned food does eventually go bad (it can eat through the can even).&nbsp; A simple thing to do, and you can rotate food through (eat the oldest can first, and make sure you eat a canned item every month and replace it).Water is one of the things I think people over-estimate on.&nbsp; The human body, under relaxation does not need gallons of it a day to survive.&nbsp; One does not need 8 cups a day per the &quot;official&quot; recommendation that it turns out they made up.Obviously, hotter climates, you'll sweat more and need more.&nbsp; But your body will absorb water from your food.&nbsp; And if water supplies are limited, you should NOT be exerting yourself.&nbsp; Sit your arse down and stay in the shade until nighttime when it is cooler and &quot;free&quot; to move around.&nbsp; Much less water will be needed to consume.&nbsp; I can't say how much, but I'd want people consuming a bottle/day rather than guzzling 5 bottles because it's hot out and they didn't wait.Socks, undies, hiking boots are good.&nbsp; Toilet paper's a good idea too.&nbsp; The last vestige of civilization is the ability to wipe yer arse.In my view, the strategy is to shelter in place, barring some reason to leave (like zombies).&nbsp; If you have a good prep plan, materials from it will be useful for an escape plan.&nbsp; If you only have materials for an escape plan, you likely don't materials for a larger scale problem.&nbsp; If there's no where to escape to, you're constrained.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Janx, post: 6150644, member: 8835"] Good points. One thing to ponder as you indicate, is whether you'll be driving away, staying put or walking. Big world of difference. The gas grill is for sheltering in place aftermath when the power's down for 2-21 days depending on where you live. I'd leave tools behind if I was walking. Carry the tarp, rope, knife, lighters, candles and food/water. Leaving by car lets you carry a bit more, though one should still choose wisely (leave the grill at home). The mormon I talked to gave a 5 year example for stocking up. That sounds ridiculous for any normal household to have warehousing for that much food. 6 months might be more viable. Still, a few cans of veggies/baked beans and couple packs of ramen noodles could keep you fed in a small disaster without requiring a large warehouse. I have a SMALL pantry in my kitchen. I would recommend that when you buy non-perishable food, write the date on the container. canned food does eventually go bad (it can eat through the can even). A simple thing to do, and you can rotate food through (eat the oldest can first, and make sure you eat a canned item every month and replace it). Water is one of the things I think people over-estimate on. The human body, under relaxation does not need gallons of it a day to survive. One does not need 8 cups a day per the "official" recommendation that it turns out they made up. Obviously, hotter climates, you'll sweat more and need more. But your body will absorb water from your food. And if water supplies are limited, you should NOT be exerting yourself. Sit your arse down and stay in the shade until nighttime when it is cooler and "free" to move around. Much less water will be needed to consume. I can't say how much, but I'd want people consuming a bottle/day rather than guzzling 5 bottles because it's hot out and they didn't wait. Socks, undies, hiking boots are good. Toilet paper's a good idea too. The last vestige of civilization is the ability to wipe yer arse. In my view, the strategy is to shelter in place, barring some reason to leave (like zombies). If you have a good prep plan, materials from it will be useful for an escape plan. If you only have materials for an escape plan, you likely don't materials for a larger scale problem. If there's no where to escape to, you're constrained. [/QUOTE]

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