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Message: <blockquote data-quote="B9anders" data-source="post: 9255733" data-attributes="member: 40133">I also follow a similar line of thinking from real-world mythology. Gods is a class of otherworldly being. Like the aesir and vanir, that have a [lawful] relationship with humanity and priests acting as intermediaries.The Jotun are a different class of entities, even if they are of similar stature. They are of chaos and don't have a relationship humanity per se, except insofar that they tend to be inimical to human survival and must sometimes be appeased. Those who do form a relationship with these beings are very different than the priests of the aesir. Not only are the entities different ('not divine'), the nature of the relationship is different and thus the class is different.Many things fall easily into place when you make the traditional cleric the class of christianity-ersatz church (ie, Gygax' Church of the Blinding Light), Druids the intermediaries of an older more nature-oriented pantheon and warlocks the ones who compacted with even less divine (but not necessarily less powerful) entities.If you have a wider pantheon in the divine side than christianity-ersatz, then specialty priests are called for, most of whom aren't suitable as adventuring classes. Divine Investiture in a mortal champion to go into the world to solve the deity's problems with violence, magic and the ability to turn and destroy the undead, is already a template for a very specific kind of deity and theology. The cleric is already a specialty priests of such a deity. Gods like Njord, Gefion and Frey have no clerics. Their specialty priests would look very different (druids most likely). But Odin, Thor, Heimdal and Vidar might have. Though at the least what they are able to turn should vary.Similar analogies can be made with the olympians vs titans vs primordials and or a faux-irish-style Fomorians vs Tuatha Dé Danann vs the White God.The anti-cleric has a relationship with yet another class of otherworldly entities, devils and demons, and is of course a mock inverted image of the cleric. And yes, psion seems like a good fit for relationship with Old Ones.</blockquote>

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