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<blockquote data-quote="Whizbang Dustyboots" data-source="post: 8342080" data-attributes="member: 11760"><p>Since we fundamentally agree on what happened, we can move in lock step.</p><p></p><p>It happened but it's irrelevant.</p><p></p><p>Bill Cosby had been sentenced to three to 10 years for the real world equivalent. I'm not sure "it's not <em>too</em> rapey" is an argument worth making.</p><p></p><p>Cool. That's not what I said. I said that <em>WotC</em> gave up on it and refused to keep going, which is what triggered the W&H lawsuit.</p><p></p><p>Unless WotC or W&H ever come out and say explicitly what happened, which is exceedingly unlikely, it's all speculation. But <em>lots</em> of people have issues with Gully Dwarves and other "ha ha, these people are so genetically inferior" stuff in Dragonlance. Even the hint of that sort of condescension and prejudice gets bigger companies than Hasbro to drop properties.</p><p></p><p>If WotC is going to sign off on a new Dragonlance book in 2020 and a draft of it shows up with problematic elements, it seems very unlikely that they wouldn't say "hey, maybe we should change this or remove it." Which matches what little we do know (rather than guess) about happened: WotC wanted changes, didn't feel W&H made them completely, W&H felt their changes were sufficient, WotC effectively walked away from the project without properly killing it and paying out to W&H. (Which was crappy behavior on WotC's part and apparently part of a pattern.)</p><p></p><p>And then WotC, at some point, decided they didn't want to go forward with the project any more.</p><p></p><p>At this point, it's all speculation. Having been involved in the writing/editing process my entire professional life, I see a breakdown in the revision process. But it's possible that WotC walked away for some other reason.</p><p></p><p>No one who wasn't a party to the suit is likely to ever really know.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Whizbang Dustyboots, post: 8342080, member: 11760"] Since we fundamentally agree on what happened, we can move in lock step. It happened but it's irrelevant. Bill Cosby had been sentenced to three to 10 years for the real world equivalent. I'm not sure "it's not [I]too[/I] rapey" is an argument worth making. Cool. That's not what I said. I said that [I]WotC[/I] gave up on it and refused to keep going, which is what triggered the W&H lawsuit. Unless WotC or W&H ever come out and say explicitly what happened, which is exceedingly unlikely, it's all speculation. But [I]lots[/I] of people have issues with Gully Dwarves and other "ha ha, these people are so genetically inferior" stuff in Dragonlance. Even the hint of that sort of condescension and prejudice gets bigger companies than Hasbro to drop properties. If WotC is going to sign off on a new Dragonlance book in 2020 and a draft of it shows up with problematic elements, it seems very unlikely that they wouldn't say "hey, maybe we should change this or remove it." Which matches what little we do know (rather than guess) about happened: WotC wanted changes, didn't feel W&H made them completely, W&H felt their changes were sufficient, WotC effectively walked away from the project without properly killing it and paying out to W&H. (Which was crappy behavior on WotC's part and apparently part of a pattern.) And then WotC, at some point, decided they didn't want to go forward with the project any more. At this point, it's all speculation. Having been involved in the writing/editing process my entire professional life, I see a breakdown in the revision process. But it's possible that WotC walked away for some other reason. No one who wasn't a party to the suit is likely to ever really know. [/QUOTE]
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