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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Celebrim" data-source="post: 6687884" data-attributes="member: 4937">I protest that the problem isn't Chaotic Neutral as a valid character choice so much as CN is the primary choice of alignment for people who want to be Chaotic Evil, but don't want to write 'evil' on their character sheet.   Likewise, the problem is not so much playing a character whose motivations may contrast with the bulk of the party, as it is not having the maturity to play those characters as anything but one dimensional caricatures.   And speaking of one dimensional caricatures...Ok, so I could be wrong but I think that probably violated norms on the EnWorld board.  I also strongly get the impression you don't know any of those 'libertarian nutjobs' save third hand through some media lens which has them looking like orcs to you as opposed to real complex persons every bit as valuable as your are and whose beliefs and values however they came about them are at least as coherent and reasoned as your own.  In any event, I disagree with both your characterization of CN, and your characterization of libertarians (even though I self-identify as neither).   Perhaps more care should be taken regarding our real world analogies.  If we are going to use them, it might be helpful to be respectful.However, for the record, doing something in order to get a thrill out of frightening someone is not a neutral motivation.   I have lived plenty in the deep south where carrying guns isn't viewed as abnormal, and I've never seen an AK-47 in an burrito shop.  And while reasons for carrying a gun vary widely from individual to individual, it's not beyond the realm of possibility for a person to carry a gun openly precisely so that someone won't be afraid.   Not everyone looks at one like a snake about to strike.  And I also disagree with the ability of CN people to get along with others.  In fact, I generally disagree with any personality based description of alignment.Hmmm... this isn't getting any better.Maybe you ought to look up the idea of projection.In the context of a fantasy game, not caring about your alignment wouldn't mean you didn't have one.  It would just mean you hadn't intellectualized what you believe or value.  As a player, you can do that regardless of the alignment on your character sheet.  It requires a bit of intelligence and a lot of humility (even when the PC itself isn't supposed to possess either trait), but if you want to do it, then you can.  Not only have I done it as a PC, but I can animate NPC's in such a way that regardless of their alignment the player's don't want to just kill them or do away with them.</blockquote>

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