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<blockquote data-quote="Li Shenron" data-source="post: 1703981" data-attributes="member: 1465">Cheerful Coffin... you are crazy!&nbsp; <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":p" title="Stick out tongue&nbsp; &nbsp; :p"&nbsp; data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":p" /> Check how many spells your Sorcerer knows and casts per day:[CODE]Known&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 0&nbsp; &nbsp; 1&nbsp; &nbsp; 2&nbsp; &nbsp; 3&nbsp; &nbsp; 4&nbsp; &nbsp; 5&nbsp; &nbsp; 6&nbsp; &nbsp; 7&nbsp; &nbsp; 8&nbsp; &nbsp; 9----------------------------------------------------------------------------&nbsp;1st&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 4&nbsp; &nbsp; 3&nbsp;2&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 6&nbsp; &nbsp; 5&nbsp;3&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 8&nbsp; &nbsp; 7&nbsp;4&nbsp; &nbsp; 10&nbsp;&nbsp; 9&nbsp; &nbsp; 2&nbsp;5&nbsp; &nbsp; 12&nbsp; 11&nbsp;&nbsp; 4&nbsp;6&nbsp; &nbsp; 14&nbsp; 13&nbsp;&nbsp; 6&nbsp; &nbsp; 2&nbsp;7&nbsp; &nbsp; 16&nbsp; 15&nbsp;&nbsp; 8&nbsp; &nbsp; 4&nbsp;8&nbsp; &nbsp; 18&nbsp; 17&nbsp; 10&nbsp;&nbsp; 6&nbsp; &nbsp; 2&nbsp;9&nbsp; &nbsp; 20&nbsp; 19&nbsp; 12&nbsp;&nbsp; 8&nbsp; &nbsp; 410&nbsp; &nbsp; 22&nbsp; 21&nbsp; 14&nbsp; 10&nbsp;&nbsp; 6&nbsp; &nbsp; 211&nbsp; &nbsp; 24&nbsp; 23&nbsp; 16&nbsp; 12&nbsp;&nbsp; 8&nbsp; &nbsp; 412&nbsp; &nbsp; 26&nbsp; 25&nbsp; 18&nbsp; 14&nbsp; 10&nbsp;&nbsp; 6&nbsp; &nbsp; 213&nbsp; &nbsp; 28&nbsp; 27&nbsp; 20&nbsp; 16&nbsp; 12&nbsp;&nbsp; 8&nbsp; &nbsp; 414&nbsp; &nbsp; 30&nbsp; 29&nbsp; 22&nbsp; 18&nbsp; 14&nbsp; 10&nbsp;&nbsp; 6&nbsp; &nbsp; 215&nbsp; &nbsp; 32&nbsp; 31&nbsp; 24&nbsp; 20&nbsp; 16&nbsp; 12&nbsp;&nbsp; 8&nbsp; &nbsp; 416&nbsp; &nbsp; 34&nbsp; 33&nbsp; 26&nbsp; 22&nbsp; 18&nbsp; 14&nbsp; 10&nbsp;&nbsp; 6&nbsp; &nbsp; 217&nbsp; &nbsp; 36&nbsp; 35&nbsp; 28&nbsp; 24&nbsp; 20&nbsp; 16&nbsp; 12&nbsp;&nbsp; 8&nbsp; &nbsp; 418&nbsp; &nbsp; 38&nbsp; 37&nbsp; 30&nbsp; 26&nbsp; 22&nbsp; 18&nbsp; 14&nbsp; 10&nbsp;&nbsp; 6&nbsp; &nbsp; 219&nbsp; &nbsp; 40&nbsp; 39&nbsp; 32&nbsp; 28&nbsp; 24&nbsp; 20&nbsp; 16&nbsp; 12&nbsp;&nbsp; 8&nbsp; &nbsp; 420&nbsp; &nbsp; 42&nbsp; 41&nbsp; 34&nbsp; 30&nbsp; 26&nbsp; 22&nbsp; 18&nbsp; 14&nbsp; 10&nbsp;&nbsp; 6Cast&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 0&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 1&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 2&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 3&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 4&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 5&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 6&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 7&nbsp; &nbsp; 8&nbsp; &nbsp; 9--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------&nbsp;1st&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 4&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 3&nbsp;2&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 6&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 5&nbsp;3&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 8&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 7&nbsp;4&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 10&nbsp; &nbsp; 9&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 2&nbsp;5&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 36&nbsp;&nbsp; 33&nbsp;&nbsp; 12&nbsp;6&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 42&nbsp;&nbsp; 39&nbsp;&nbsp; 18&nbsp; &nbsp; 6&nbsp;7&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 48&nbsp;&nbsp; 45&nbsp;&nbsp; 24&nbsp;&nbsp; 12&nbsp;8&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 54&nbsp;&nbsp; 51&nbsp;&nbsp; 30&nbsp;&nbsp; 18&nbsp; &nbsp; 6&nbsp;9&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 60&nbsp;&nbsp; 57&nbsp;&nbsp; 36&nbsp;&nbsp; 24&nbsp;&nbsp; 1210&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 88&nbsp;&nbsp; 84&nbsp;&nbsp; 56&nbsp;&nbsp; 40&nbsp;&nbsp; 24&nbsp; &nbsp; 811&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 96&nbsp;&nbsp; 92&nbsp;&nbsp; 64&nbsp;&nbsp; 48&nbsp;&nbsp; 32&nbsp;&nbsp; 1612&nbsp; &nbsp; 104 100&nbsp; 72&nbsp;&nbsp; 56&nbsp;&nbsp; 40&nbsp;&nbsp; 24&nbsp; &nbsp; 813&nbsp; &nbsp; 112 108&nbsp; 80&nbsp;&nbsp; 64&nbsp;&nbsp; 48&nbsp;&nbsp; 32&nbsp;&nbsp; 1614&nbsp; &nbsp; 120 116&nbsp; 88&nbsp;&nbsp; 72&nbsp;&nbsp; 56&nbsp;&nbsp; 40&nbsp;&nbsp; 24&nbsp; &nbsp; 815&nbsp; &nbsp; 160 155 120 100&nbsp; 80&nbsp;&nbsp; 60&nbsp;&nbsp; 40&nbsp;&nbsp; 2016&nbsp; &nbsp; 170 165 130 110&nbsp; 90&nbsp;&nbsp; 70&nbsp;&nbsp; 50&nbsp;&nbsp; 30&nbsp; 1017&nbsp; &nbsp; 180 175 140 120 100&nbsp; 80&nbsp;&nbsp; 60&nbsp;&nbsp; 40&nbsp; 2018&nbsp; &nbsp; 190 185 150 130 110&nbsp; 90&nbsp;&nbsp; 70&nbsp;&nbsp; 50&nbsp; 30&nbsp; 1019&nbsp; &nbsp; 200 195 160 140 120 100&nbsp; 80&nbsp;&nbsp; 60&nbsp; 40&nbsp; 2020&nbsp; &nbsp; 252 246 204 180 156 132 108&nbsp; 84&nbsp; 60&nbsp; 36[/CODE] You see my problem?&nbsp;&nbsp; <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink&nbsp; &nbsp; ;)"&nbsp; data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /> At least you should be careful of multiplying things, which is basically what happens if you keep increasing the number of s.l.a. known to ALL spell levels AND increase the number of uses per day of each. Maybe when you say &quot;per day&quot; you don't mean each of the s.l.a. you know, is it perhaps that 1/day means you can cast ONE s.l.a. of each LEVEL you are able to cast? That would bring back to earth at least the casts/day, but still the number of known is really large... consider letting it learn 2 s.l.a. per level but only of the highest spell level (it would be at least closer to how many are learned by the Wizard).Even with these 2 changes, you'd be knowing as many spells as a Wiz, casting more spells/day than every caster in the books, and they would be s.l.a. which is far better than spells (no components!). The special feats even break it more, removing the AoO for example.As it is now, this looks more like a new class: the God&nbsp; <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink&nbsp; &nbsp; ;)"&nbsp; data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></blockquote>

[QUOTE="Li Shenron, post: 1703981, member: 1465"] Cheerful Coffin... you are crazy! :p Check how many spells your Sorcerer knows and casts per day: [CODE]Known 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1st 4 3 2 6 5 3 8 7 4 10 9 2 5 12 11 4 6 14 13 6 2 7 16 15 8 4 8 18 17 10 6 2 9 20 19 12 8 4 10 22 21 14 10 6 2 11 24 23 16 12 8 4 12 26 25 18 14 10 6 2 13 28 27 20 16 12 8 4 14 30 29 22 18 14 10 6 2 15 32 31 24 20 16 12 8 4 16 34 33 26 22 18 14 10 6 2 17 36 35 28 24 20 16 12 8 4 18 38 37 30 26 22 18 14 10 6 2 19 40 39 32 28 24 20 16 12 8 4 20 42 41 34 30 26 22 18 14 10 6 Cast 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1st 4 3 2 6 5 3 8 7 4 10 9 2 5 36 33 12 6 42 39 18 6 7 48 45 24 12 8 54 51 30 18 6 9 60 57 36 24 12 10 88 84 56 40 24 8 11 96 92 64 48 32 16 12 104 100 72 56 40 24 8 13 112 108 80 64 48 32 16 14 120 116 88 72 56 40 24 8 15 160 155 120 100 80 60 40 20 16 170 165 130 110 90 70 50 30 10 17 180 175 140 120 100 80 60 40 20 18 190 185 150 130 110 90 70 50 30 10 19 200 195 160 140 120 100 80 60 40 20 20 252 246 204 180 156 132 108 84 60 36[/CODE] You see my problem? ;) At least you should be careful of multiplying things, which is basically what happens if you keep increasing the number of s.l.a. known to ALL spell levels AND increase the number of uses per day of each. Maybe when you say "per day" you don't mean each of the s.l.a. you know, is it perhaps that 1/day means you can cast ONE s.l.a. of each LEVEL you are able to cast? That would bring back to earth at least the casts/day, but still the number of known is really large... consider letting it learn 2 s.l.a. per level but only of the highest spell level (it would be at least closer to how many are learned by the Wizard). Even with these 2 changes, you'd be knowing as many spells as a Wiz, casting more spells/day than every caster in the books, and they would be s.l.a. which is far better than spells (no components!). The special feats even break it more, removing the AoO for example. As it is now, this looks more like a new class: the God ;) [/QUOTE]

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