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<blockquote data-quote="humble minion" data-source="post: 3327323" data-attributes="member: 5948"><p>I'd argue this is a problem for the DM to sort out, rather than the PC.</p><p></p><p>Your PC cannot have been the first paladin to face this problem. What's more, your paladin is lawful (by definition), and most likely is part of a larger established church. Sir Shinysword is not an island in this matter. He doesn't have to rely on his 5 ranks of knowledge (religion) - he has access to all the teachings and wisdom of great figures in his religion throughout the ages. He has access to the counsel of his personal confessor. If all else fails, he can commission a <em>divination</em> or <em>commune</em> spell or have a celestial summoned and ask it for advice - a cleric would almost be duty-bound to aid him in this.</p><p></p><p>In this case, it's a matter for the DM to decide whether in the eyes of the paladin's god, killing juvenile scrags is necessary, or if it is evil. Once the DM has decided that, the paladin knows what he has to do to remain a paladin, and the only question remains is if he can square it with his conscience. If he can't, of course, there's all sorts of interesting roleplaying opportunities. </p><p></p><p>And as a metagaming bonus, if Sir Shinysword takes the tadpoles back home while he seeks advice on what to do with them, then they become the problem and responsibility of the collective church, and not just him, if mercy is the approved solution. This saves your PC from having to personally set up Sir Shinysword's Home For Orphaned Evil Monsters, and lets him continue adventuring. Though of course, if mercy is the right thing to do in this situation, the church should <em>already</em> have such an institution set up and running, unless Sir Shinysword is the first paladin ever to have this problem. Them baby monsters have to go somewhere, after all!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="humble minion, post: 3327323, member: 5948"] I'd argue this is a problem for the DM to sort out, rather than the PC. Your PC cannot have been the first paladin to face this problem. What's more, your paladin is lawful (by definition), and most likely is part of a larger established church. Sir Shinysword is not an island in this matter. He doesn't have to rely on his 5 ranks of knowledge (religion) - he has access to all the teachings and wisdom of great figures in his religion throughout the ages. He has access to the counsel of his personal confessor. If all else fails, he can commission a [i]divination[/i] or [i]commune[/i] spell or have a celestial summoned and ask it for advice - a cleric would almost be duty-bound to aid him in this. In this case, it's a matter for the DM to decide whether in the eyes of the paladin's god, killing juvenile scrags is necessary, or if it is evil. Once the DM has decided that, the paladin knows what he has to do to remain a paladin, and the only question remains is if he can square it with his conscience. If he can't, of course, there's all sorts of interesting roleplaying opportunities. And as a metagaming bonus, if Sir Shinysword takes the tadpoles back home while he seeks advice on what to do with them, then they become the problem and responsibility of the collective church, and not just him, if mercy is the approved solution. This saves your PC from having to personally set up Sir Shinysword's Home For Orphaned Evil Monsters, and lets him continue adventuring. Though of course, if mercy is the right thing to do in this situation, the church should [i]already[/i] have such an institution set up and running, unless Sir Shinysword is the first paladin ever to have this problem. Them baby monsters have to go somewhere, after all! [/QUOTE]
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