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<blockquote data-quote="I'm A Banana" data-source="post: 3338801" data-attributes="member: 2067"><p>Generally, it is held that poison violates the "honorable combat" part of the oath, but even that is hotly debated. The idea for one side goes that the paladin should be destroying evil with his own hands, rather than with subterfuge, skullduggery, and sneaktheifery. The idea for the other goes that poison is just a tool, like fireballs and the Hide skill, and the paladin should be free to use it as they do any tool.</p><p></p><p>More to the point of the paragraph, "evil" and "good" have clear definitions and ways to read them in D&D, and these definitions are different (but similar to) what the real world's western Judeo-Christian post-enlightenment milieu considers the concepts to be. In D&D, because you can tell what is evil, destroying evil is good. In the real world, because you can't, destroying what you think might be evil is seriously a stickier issue. Y'know the line "Judge Not, Lest Ye Be Judged?" In D&D, it's turned on its head, because the gods give the mortals the capacity to judge -- and the imperative to do so. No one has been re-defining the D&D terms, just extrapolating from their implications, unlike someone who would claim that salt is poison, because that would be re-defining what D&D means by "poison."</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="I'm A Banana, post: 3338801, member: 2067"] Generally, it is held that poison violates the "honorable combat" part of the oath, but even that is hotly debated. The idea for one side goes that the paladin should be destroying evil with his own hands, rather than with subterfuge, skullduggery, and sneaktheifery. The idea for the other goes that poison is just a tool, like fireballs and the Hide skill, and the paladin should be free to use it as they do any tool. More to the point of the paragraph, "evil" and "good" have clear definitions and ways to read them in D&D, and these definitions are different (but similar to) what the real world's western Judeo-Christian post-enlightenment milieu considers the concepts to be. In D&D, because you can tell what is evil, destroying evil is good. In the real world, because you can't, destroying what you think might be evil is seriously a stickier issue. Y'know the line "Judge Not, Lest Ye Be Judged?" In D&D, it's turned on its head, because the gods give the mortals the capacity to judge -- and the imperative to do so. No one has been re-defining the D&D terms, just extrapolating from their implications, unlike someone who would claim that salt is poison, because that would be re-defining what D&D means by "poison." [/QUOTE]
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