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<blockquote data-quote="I'm A Banana" data-source="post: 3343245" data-attributes="member: 2067"><p><strong>Good</strong> kills evil, protects neutral from evil, and aids even different kinds of good against evil.</p><p></p><p><strong>Evil</strong> kills evil, kills neutral, and kills good. </p><p></p><p>This is an extrapolation of the good guys/bad guys idea I posted above. Good characters protect innocents. Evil characters corrupt, murder, and use them as tools. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>A: Detect evil doesn't ALWAYS require you to smite it to be good. In this situation, it seems what is demanded: it is evil, and to do anything other than smite it would be irresponsible at best.</p><p></p><p>B: What makes it evil in the first place is committing evil acts, including murdering innocents. If they don't commit these acts, IMO, they don't get to be evil, because evil requires a commitment.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>That is largely a campaign consideration. It is, perhaps, true in the core. It is even more debatable in the OP's case. I mean, either the scragpoles are composed of evil, or they've used their short lives to commit it after being spawned. Otherwise, they wouldn't be evil.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>There is no difference between being evil and doing evil. Additionally, some non-criminals can face a paladin's wrath, and some criminals can face their unending mercy and compassion.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>If these scragpoles have a choice, they have already made their choice: evil. They have already done it. They are guilty of it. They will do it again. How do you stop evil when the creature does not repent? You destroy it. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>All of these are debatable points; they're not nearly as salient as you seem to be implying.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>But, again, these scragpoles *are* guilty of something. They wouldn't be evil if they weren't.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>But this situation isn't "strong possibility that an infant creature will one day grow up to be evil." It is "an evil creature." It just happens to be a very *young*, very *weak* evil creature. But so are Larvae, and killing them in droves doesn't provoke these debates.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="I'm A Banana, post: 3343245, member: 2067"] [B]Good[/B] kills evil, protects neutral from evil, and aids even different kinds of good against evil. [B]Evil[/B] kills evil, kills neutral, and kills good. This is an extrapolation of the good guys/bad guys idea I posted above. Good characters protect innocents. Evil characters corrupt, murder, and use them as tools. A: Detect evil doesn't ALWAYS require you to smite it to be good. In this situation, it seems what is demanded: it is evil, and to do anything other than smite it would be irresponsible at best. B: What makes it evil in the first place is committing evil acts, including murdering innocents. If they don't commit these acts, IMO, they don't get to be evil, because evil requires a commitment. That is largely a campaign consideration. It is, perhaps, true in the core. It is even more debatable in the OP's case. I mean, either the scragpoles are composed of evil, or they've used their short lives to commit it after being spawned. Otherwise, they wouldn't be evil. There is no difference between being evil and doing evil. Additionally, some non-criminals can face a paladin's wrath, and some criminals can face their unending mercy and compassion. If these scragpoles have a choice, they have already made their choice: evil. They have already done it. They are guilty of it. They will do it again. How do you stop evil when the creature does not repent? You destroy it. All of these are debatable points; they're not nearly as salient as you seem to be implying. But, again, these scragpoles *are* guilty of something. They wouldn't be evil if they weren't. But this situation isn't "strong possibility that an infant creature will one day grow up to be evil." It is "an evil creature." It just happens to be a very *young*, very *weak* evil creature. But so are Larvae, and killing them in droves doesn't provoke these debates. [/QUOTE]
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