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<blockquote data-quote="tariff" data-source="post: 2940817" data-attributes="member: 18635"><p>Bibabobalobalos sees that there is an area of water. Some of the tunnel is submerged. He examines the water and drops a rock into it to test it's depth. The water is approximately 4ft deep. Bob sees what looks like an old trunk..infact two, in the water up ahead..Bibabobalobalos shouts back down the tunnel to the others "Water here. It's a bit deep. I'll tell you something for nothing about dwarves; they don't like water very much. Who can swim?"</p><p>Sparhawk strides into the mine..its very dark.. He moves toward Coleridge’s light. Bibabobalobalos smiles "Yes, Mr Sparhawk, sir, a strapping big bloke like you could wade into this pool here without difficulty. If that is what you would be inclined to do?"</p><p>"I would prefer not to go wading through water as platemail does not tend to be much of a buoyancy aid" replies the warrior.</p><p>"I take your point!" replies Bibabobalobalos "Then, of course, there is the problem with rust.”</p><p></p><p>"I thought it was cats that didn't like water, must be getting the two things confused" says Coleridge "I don't mind getting in to try and get them up... by the looks of it it shouldn't be above my chest, and this leather armor we got at the keep seems well cured" Coleridge pauses a moment "my only reservation would be that the last time i came across a pool underground like this was at Galath's and it had a nasty creature living in it... how about tying a rope to me then if anything untoward happens you can yank me back out of the water?"</p><p>"Cats and dwarves don't like water!" replies the dwarf "No. Cats, dwarves and halflings don't like water." He corrects himself "Ah. Cats, dwarves, halflings and mad dogs don't like water."</p><p></p><p>Feng moves boldly inside. "I have a rope. You feeling depressed?" He snorts “If me and Sparhawk keep a grip on the rope, it's gonna be one hell of a fish that is gonna steal our wordsmith from us! ..."an' It won't wake up from the headache that Feng's little axe will give it!" Feng poses a little with the Orcish double-axe "What do ya say Limara? The Greataxe or the Double axe? What is really Feng? I wants to know. I'm just not sure I consider a chopper worthwhile if ya don't need two hands to wield it properly". Feng laughs loudly until he considers that he has conformed to most half-orc barbarian clichés in just two sentences, and stops with a cough.</p><p></p><p>Limara replies “I think they both suit you well. I know a mighty Half orc warrior, he favours the Greataxe...says it makes more of a thud when you hit!"</p><p></p><p>Bibabobalobalos nods "Feng, the dwarven waraxe is more flexible in that it can be wielded with either one or two hands, though wielding one handed does take some skill and practice. Alas, I am not proficient and have to make do with my rapier."</p><p>Feng shoots the dwarf a look "Yeah. My mistake. I probably looked like I would be interested in your opinion. Pah! Rapier! When you die, can I take it and give it to my first-born daughter?"</p><p>"Oh!" Bibabobalobalos smiles nervously.</p><p></p><p>Beltain looks at the half orc "I had thought that you favored an axe such as, what was it now, Laskar's Bane? That certainly was a death dealer and put fear into the hearts of your foes. Why do you think that you should change?"</p><p>Feng snorts again, ignoring Beltain "Ya know what! I can't be arsed waiting for you strange bunch to be tying each other up. I'll wade in a' take a look-see."</p><p>Bibabobalobalos cheers "Well done that fellow, good luck."</p><p>Feng places his dagger between his teeth and settles his shield on his arm, and wades out into the water....Slowly, feeling his way "Come on in! The water is lovely!" He mutters "Jessies" </p><p>Bibabobalobalos calls back "I would do but it's over my eyes!"</p><p>Feng calls back "And the problem is?" Feng smiles to himself.</p><p>"When I get a chance I'll take swimming lessons” says the dwarf.</p><p>Beltain follows the half orc into the water.</p><p></p><p>Feng pushes his way through the water toward the two submerged trunks. They both are ruined, broken open. Feng shouts back to the others "THEY'RE JUST CRAP, BUT THE WATER GOES IN A COUPLE OF DIRECTIONS!"</p><p></p><p>Sparhawk speaks up "As I see it neighbours we have 3 options...we can all head into the water, we can all follow these cart tracks , or we can do a quick reccy in both directions by splitting up"</p><p>Rizzit follows the tracks a little way, they continue on and turn round a corner. “The tracks go deeper in the Mine” shouts Rizzit.</p><p></p><p>Feng pushes on through the water with Beltain following. He turns a corner. There is a dead end, but a miners lamp glows from the top of a rock. Several more broken trunks lie submerged in the water. Feng and Beltain check the area but find nothing of interest. Feng pushes through the water again down another tunnel. This also ends in a dead end. Both of them begin to make their way back to the party..</p><p></p><p>Back on dry land The Wizard Nosnibor says to his comrades "Did Feng just say the Cee Aarh Aye Pee word?" Limara whispers back to Nos.."Yes, i think he did" "Oh Fooey." Says The Wizard Nosnibor as he puts another coin into the swear box. Limara looks at the wizard "I thought that ..that word... was just slang, from the inventor of the flushing toilet, Thomas Crapper.... am i wrong?...gnomish fellow i believe..."</p><p>"Flushing toilet? By the holy arse of Gruumsh - what are you on about?" says Feng, arriving back.</p><p>"Yes you are. That's an uban legend."Says The Wizard Nosnibor as he puts another coin in the swear box. </p><p>"oh.. thanks for informing me.." says Limara, she turns to Feng "Feng... apparently CRAP is a swear word too according to our learned mage here..." </p><p>Feng smiles mischeviously.</p><p>"It most assuredly is." Says The Wizard Nosnibor as he shakes the tin at Limara hopefully.</p><p>Feng speaks "Crap is a swearword? Well, now I am surprised - whoever thought that Crap would be though of as rude?”</p><p></p><p>Knowing Feng is a lost cause The Wizard Nosnibor puts two more coins into the Swear Box.</p><p></p><p>Limara turns to Nosnibor and smiles. She takes a coin out of her pocket..” Nos, dear Nos.. there are indeed times when swearing and cursing are not acceptable, for instance when we are addressing Ranked Purple Knights or nobles, when we deal with councilors in a town. There are more examples too, especially in a lawful region like Cormyr. Now at those times Feng and everyone else is expected to bite their tongue and show no outward disrespect, for the sake of the whole party…but then there are other times when that doesn’t apply. During those times I am more than willing to accept Fengs or anyone else’s colorful language, as long they aren’t personally belittling or verbally bullying a weaker person.”..Limara puts a gold piece in the swear box. “This is the only time I will ever put a coin in this box. I do it because I intentionally swore to offend you and for that I am truly sorry. Any money I have is used to further the cause of my church not your charity, please don’t ask for another donation. “</p><p></p><p>Beltain climbs out of the water… He looks down at his dripping clothes. Then at the wizard. "I think that the idea of a swear box isn't a bad one but your definition of swear words appears to be very wide and not understood by all in the party. If I was to fall on the rear of my person I need to know what I can say that I have hurt without having to pay you amounts of money. We can't have the situation of people hesitating in critical situations and fumbling for a word thus putting there or others lives in jeopardy. I consider swearing to be where the objective is to annoy or cause offence, if the use of a word is not intended to do these things then I feel that your tin should not benefit. In short the offence of swearing is to a large part in the intent rather than the language. We clerics have to take action to heal a bloody or bleeding wound then we need to describe it as we see it. Sorry I know that you do this for the best but I feel that a fully documented procedure with all offensive words, including those in elvish, dwarven, orcish and kobald are clearly noted would allow us to understand more clearly what is to be avoided."</p><p></p><p>“Frankly standing in water up to my chest is no fun." States Feng "I really hope I don't stub my toe and vent some more salty expressions.."</p><p>The Wizard Nosnibor nods to Limara and Beltain "I agree with both Limara and Beltain that swearing constitutes times when we are showing outward disrespect and that that should be curbed, thus is the purpose of my swear box. I also agree that what qualifies as a time when someone is swearing should certainly include times when the objective is to "Annoy or cause offence" or "Personally belittling or verbally bullying a weaker person". However the genesis offensive of bullying behavior is in the language it's self. Coarse and observably limited linguistic phraseology such as your ' swear' words encourage fast reply, no thinking behavior, which mirrors the fast reply insulting nature of the language. Studies have shown that language and behavior are linked. And Beltain, your point about ' fumbling for a word thus putting others lives at risk' is erroneous. By searching for alternatives to the common, and i do mean common, expletives we increase our vocabulary and offer us more alternatives of speech in dangerous situations. Thus allowing us to describe said situation more precisely and increasing out chances of survival, not decreasing them. as we do when we exclaim with simple profanity. And my final and most important point about moderating our language at all times is that it is a reflection of who we are. Are we simple gutter thieves who sneak into other hiding holes and steal their hard earned money? Or are we brave and heroic adventurers who bravely fight the evils of the world and redistribute wealth amongst the population? Do we chose to be brave. Honorable. Steadfast. Dependable? Or are we just a rabble who are out on the make, to get what we can for our selves in the world? Our behavior and attitude is one of the things that define this. And our language is a thing that underpins our behavior. So do we slay foul beasts? Or <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />ing twat some <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />ing stupid <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />ing monsters <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />s? Do we rescue the fair maiden? Or do we stubble upon some <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />ing useless tart? " The Wizard Nosnibor counts seven gold coins into the swear box. He continue "Language is really a very powerful thing. It can bend reality. It can define what is correct. And it can also define what is BAD. That is the purpose of the swear box."</p><p></p><p>The Wizard Nosnibor bends down to his cat "What was that Pussy? Oh. I'm sorry i swore. I really needed to to get my point across.”</p><p>Feng spits as he climbs out the water "Typical Mage. Words are important if that is all you have. You don't get to be so talkative when you stalk some beast which you have to face - perhaps alone - perhaps in unfamiliar and difficult places, far from help or recognition." He stands upright "Feng is what Feng is. Don't take it on yourself to foist unwanted improvements on me. Don't the teacher have to be better than the pupil if the teaching is to be something other than a teacher’s ego trip? Run twenty miles in my shoes and take on a rough fight at the end of it, then come back with something to say. 'Cos all I'm hearing is someone flappin' their gums." He points a finger at the mage "We all know good from bad. I don't know if I need someone to tell me I'm right or wrong. Even if it ain't all the same to you, I'll take my cue from Limara and Beltain. They've stood with me with bloody hands and even brought me back from death. They've earned the right to bore my ears orf. They've paid in blood and sweat. They ain't just sat in a room somewhere and read a lot o' books."</p><p>Feng Sneers "I reckon readin' gives someone an overdeveloped sense o' themselves.” He bellows “I AM FENG…And someday, people will read of me!"</p><p></p><p>Beltain looks over to Limara "sat in a room somewhere and read books, Princess?" he grins "No way Feng, we are clerics or sterner stuff and worship the gods to war!” He turns to the wizard “If you use words Nosi, you'll always find someone to argue with your point of view. Not many argue with Feng's axe, and those that do are soon as silent as the grave"</p><p>Feng gives and exaggerated sigh "Beltain - I said you hadn't... must be the weird acoustics in here... I dunno, I may be a simple man, but I never thought that swearing robbed an action of nobility. Make sure you never stub your toe as you help an old lady across the road, thats all I can say....but I'll be <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />ED! if I let prat-hat over there be final judge of my actions. The only one who has the right to do that is the person who can kill me." Feng sets his mouth in a grim line.</p><p></p><p>The Wizard Nosnibor looks directly at the half orc "Feng i absolutely agree with your point of view. And i absolutely apologize. I have no right to stand in judgment over your behavior until i have stood in line of death with you in the battle over evil. Until such time as i have done so i will withdraw my comments and my swear box. However i do still believe the truth of my earlier points. Though, as you have so eloquently stated, i do not have the right to express them here. Again you have my humblest apologies. We will return to this topic of discussion when that time comes." The Wizard Nosnibor pulls out a small bag "Does anyone want a boiled sweety?"</p><p></p><p>Feng suddenly laughs "Mage. I am at fault. I should take my own advice. It's only words, after all. Carry on with whatever you want to say. I just won't promise to listen.... but I tell ya what - if ever it seems that I cannot rage-in-battle, just give me some more crack-brained advice, and it should sort me out nicely." Feng takes a sweetie and slobbers noisily</p><p></p><p>“Nos...i like you. You have upstanding values, your Aunty must be proud....and thank you for the candy." Says Limara as she takes a sweet.</p><p>Bibabobalobalos scratches his beard, looks at The Wizard Nosnibor and shakes his head.</p><p>Coleridge speaks "You make some interesting observations Nosi, but as others have pointed out we would no more have someone else's opinion about our use of language rammed down our throats, than we would have another’s religious beliefs thrust upon us. You also need to ask yourself about the derivation of a great many words, many that you view as acceptable alternatives to common slang words, were themselves slang derivations in the development of our common tongue... and you call the words common, but does that necessarily make them wrong, as with all words it is the context in which they are used.. you can be derisive, hurtful and downright nasty without uttering one word which you view as an expletive.. and make someone feel better and brighten someone’s day by using a phrase which is full of them"</p><p>Coleridge continues "There is no bad language, all language is beautiful in its intricacies and development, there are only bad ways in which people use language... but the debate seems to be over now anyway, i just wished to added my 2cp worth, cos words are important to me and my profession"</p><p></p><p>Sparhawk speaks up "If we have finished discussing the finer points of language and eating sweets and worrying about wollen hats and such like can we please focus and get on with this neighbours"</p><p></p><p>"You can't knock a good boiled sweet Spar" Coleridge grins </p><p></p><p>The party travel on, following the mine tracks</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="tariff, post: 2940817, member: 18635"] Bibabobalobalos sees that there is an area of water. Some of the tunnel is submerged. He examines the water and drops a rock into it to test it's depth. The water is approximately 4ft deep. Bob sees what looks like an old trunk..infact two, in the water up ahead..Bibabobalobalos shouts back down the tunnel to the others "Water here. It's a bit deep. I'll tell you something for nothing about dwarves; they don't like water very much. Who can swim?" Sparhawk strides into the mine..its very dark.. He moves toward Coleridge’s light. Bibabobalobalos smiles "Yes, Mr Sparhawk, sir, a strapping big bloke like you could wade into this pool here without difficulty. If that is what you would be inclined to do?" "I would prefer not to go wading through water as platemail does not tend to be much of a buoyancy aid" replies the warrior. "I take your point!" replies Bibabobalobalos "Then, of course, there is the problem with rust.” "I thought it was cats that didn't like water, must be getting the two things confused" says Coleridge "I don't mind getting in to try and get them up... by the looks of it it shouldn't be above my chest, and this leather armor we got at the keep seems well cured" Coleridge pauses a moment "my only reservation would be that the last time i came across a pool underground like this was at Galath's and it had a nasty creature living in it... how about tying a rope to me then if anything untoward happens you can yank me back out of the water?" "Cats and dwarves don't like water!" replies the dwarf "No. Cats, dwarves and halflings don't like water." He corrects himself "Ah. Cats, dwarves, halflings and mad dogs don't like water." Feng moves boldly inside. "I have a rope. You feeling depressed?" He snorts “If me and Sparhawk keep a grip on the rope, it's gonna be one hell of a fish that is gonna steal our wordsmith from us! ..."an' It won't wake up from the headache that Feng's little axe will give it!" Feng poses a little with the Orcish double-axe "What do ya say Limara? The Greataxe or the Double axe? What is really Feng? I wants to know. I'm just not sure I consider a chopper worthwhile if ya don't need two hands to wield it properly". Feng laughs loudly until he considers that he has conformed to most half-orc barbarian clichés in just two sentences, and stops with a cough. Limara replies “I think they both suit you well. I know a mighty Half orc warrior, he favours the Greataxe...says it makes more of a thud when you hit!" Bibabobalobalos nods "Feng, the dwarven waraxe is more flexible in that it can be wielded with either one or two hands, though wielding one handed does take some skill and practice. Alas, I am not proficient and have to make do with my rapier." Feng shoots the dwarf a look "Yeah. My mistake. I probably looked like I would be interested in your opinion. Pah! Rapier! When you die, can I take it and give it to my first-born daughter?" "Oh!" Bibabobalobalos smiles nervously. Beltain looks at the half orc "I had thought that you favored an axe such as, what was it now, Laskar's Bane? That certainly was a death dealer and put fear into the hearts of your foes. Why do you think that you should change?" Feng snorts again, ignoring Beltain "Ya know what! I can't be arsed waiting for you strange bunch to be tying each other up. I'll wade in a' take a look-see." Bibabobalobalos cheers "Well done that fellow, good luck." Feng places his dagger between his teeth and settles his shield on his arm, and wades out into the water....Slowly, feeling his way "Come on in! The water is lovely!" He mutters "Jessies" Bibabobalobalos calls back "I would do but it's over my eyes!" Feng calls back "And the problem is?" Feng smiles to himself. "When I get a chance I'll take swimming lessons” says the dwarf. Beltain follows the half orc into the water. Feng pushes his way through the water toward the two submerged trunks. They both are ruined, broken open. Feng shouts back to the others "THEY'RE JUST CRAP, BUT THE WATER GOES IN A COUPLE OF DIRECTIONS!" Sparhawk speaks up "As I see it neighbours we have 3 options...we can all head into the water, we can all follow these cart tracks , or we can do a quick reccy in both directions by splitting up" Rizzit follows the tracks a little way, they continue on and turn round a corner. “The tracks go deeper in the Mine” shouts Rizzit. Feng pushes on through the water with Beltain following. He turns a corner. There is a dead end, but a miners lamp glows from the top of a rock. Several more broken trunks lie submerged in the water. Feng and Beltain check the area but find nothing of interest. Feng pushes through the water again down another tunnel. This also ends in a dead end. Both of them begin to make their way back to the party.. Back on dry land The Wizard Nosnibor says to his comrades "Did Feng just say the Cee Aarh Aye Pee word?" Limara whispers back to Nos.."Yes, i think he did" "Oh Fooey." Says The Wizard Nosnibor as he puts another coin into the swear box. Limara looks at the wizard "I thought that ..that word... was just slang, from the inventor of the flushing toilet, Thomas Crapper.... am i wrong?...gnomish fellow i believe..." "Flushing toilet? By the holy arse of Gruumsh - what are you on about?" says Feng, arriving back. "Yes you are. That's an uban legend."Says The Wizard Nosnibor as he puts another coin in the swear box. "oh.. thanks for informing me.." says Limara, she turns to Feng "Feng... apparently CRAP is a swear word too according to our learned mage here..." Feng smiles mischeviously. "It most assuredly is." Says The Wizard Nosnibor as he shakes the tin at Limara hopefully. Feng speaks "Crap is a swearword? Well, now I am surprised - whoever thought that Crap would be though of as rude?” Knowing Feng is a lost cause The Wizard Nosnibor puts two more coins into the Swear Box. Limara turns to Nosnibor and smiles. She takes a coin out of her pocket..” Nos, dear Nos.. there are indeed times when swearing and cursing are not acceptable, for instance when we are addressing Ranked Purple Knights or nobles, when we deal with councilors in a town. There are more examples too, especially in a lawful region like Cormyr. Now at those times Feng and everyone else is expected to bite their tongue and show no outward disrespect, for the sake of the whole party…but then there are other times when that doesn’t apply. During those times I am more than willing to accept Fengs or anyone else’s colorful language, as long they aren’t personally belittling or verbally bullying a weaker person.”..Limara puts a gold piece in the swear box. “This is the only time I will ever put a coin in this box. I do it because I intentionally swore to offend you and for that I am truly sorry. Any money I have is used to further the cause of my church not your charity, please don’t ask for another donation. “ Beltain climbs out of the water… He looks down at his dripping clothes. Then at the wizard. "I think that the idea of a swear box isn't a bad one but your definition of swear words appears to be very wide and not understood by all in the party. If I was to fall on the rear of my person I need to know what I can say that I have hurt without having to pay you amounts of money. We can't have the situation of people hesitating in critical situations and fumbling for a word thus putting there or others lives in jeopardy. I consider swearing to be where the objective is to annoy or cause offence, if the use of a word is not intended to do these things then I feel that your tin should not benefit. In short the offence of swearing is to a large part in the intent rather than the language. We clerics have to take action to heal a bloody or bleeding wound then we need to describe it as we see it. Sorry I know that you do this for the best but I feel that a fully documented procedure with all offensive words, including those in elvish, dwarven, orcish and kobald are clearly noted would allow us to understand more clearly what is to be avoided." “Frankly standing in water up to my chest is no fun." States Feng "I really hope I don't stub my toe and vent some more salty expressions.." The Wizard Nosnibor nods to Limara and Beltain "I agree with both Limara and Beltain that swearing constitutes times when we are showing outward disrespect and that that should be curbed, thus is the purpose of my swear box. I also agree that what qualifies as a time when someone is swearing should certainly include times when the objective is to "Annoy or cause offence" or "Personally belittling or verbally bullying a weaker person". However the genesis offensive of bullying behavior is in the language it's self. Coarse and observably limited linguistic phraseology such as your ' swear' words encourage fast reply, no thinking behavior, which mirrors the fast reply insulting nature of the language. Studies have shown that language and behavior are linked. And Beltain, your point about ' fumbling for a word thus putting others lives at risk' is erroneous. By searching for alternatives to the common, and i do mean common, expletives we increase our vocabulary and offer us more alternatives of speech in dangerous situations. Thus allowing us to describe said situation more precisely and increasing out chances of survival, not decreasing them. as we do when we exclaim with simple profanity. And my final and most important point about moderating our language at all times is that it is a reflection of who we are. Are we simple gutter thieves who sneak into other hiding holes and steal their hard earned money? Or are we brave and heroic adventurers who bravely fight the evils of the world and redistribute wealth amongst the population? Do we chose to be brave. Honorable. Steadfast. Dependable? Or are we just a rabble who are out on the make, to get what we can for our selves in the world? Our behavior and attitude is one of the things that define this. And our language is a thing that underpins our behavior. So do we slay foul beasts? Or :):):):)ing twat some :):):):)ing stupid :):):):)ing monsters :):):):)s? Do we rescue the fair maiden? Or do we stubble upon some :):):):)ing useless tart? " The Wizard Nosnibor counts seven gold coins into the swear box. He continue "Language is really a very powerful thing. It can bend reality. It can define what is correct. And it can also define what is BAD. That is the purpose of the swear box." The Wizard Nosnibor bends down to his cat "What was that Pussy? Oh. I'm sorry i swore. I really needed to to get my point across.” Feng spits as he climbs out the water "Typical Mage. Words are important if that is all you have. You don't get to be so talkative when you stalk some beast which you have to face - perhaps alone - perhaps in unfamiliar and difficult places, far from help or recognition." He stands upright "Feng is what Feng is. Don't take it on yourself to foist unwanted improvements on me. Don't the teacher have to be better than the pupil if the teaching is to be something other than a teacher’s ego trip? Run twenty miles in my shoes and take on a rough fight at the end of it, then come back with something to say. 'Cos all I'm hearing is someone flappin' their gums." He points a finger at the mage "We all know good from bad. I don't know if I need someone to tell me I'm right or wrong. Even if it ain't all the same to you, I'll take my cue from Limara and Beltain. They've stood with me with bloody hands and even brought me back from death. They've earned the right to bore my ears orf. They've paid in blood and sweat. They ain't just sat in a room somewhere and read a lot o' books." Feng Sneers "I reckon readin' gives someone an overdeveloped sense o' themselves.” He bellows “I AM FENG…And someday, people will read of me!" Beltain looks over to Limara "sat in a room somewhere and read books, Princess?" he grins "No way Feng, we are clerics or sterner stuff and worship the gods to war!” He turns to the wizard “If you use words Nosi, you'll always find someone to argue with your point of view. Not many argue with Feng's axe, and those that do are soon as silent as the grave" Feng gives and exaggerated sigh "Beltain - I said you hadn't... must be the weird acoustics in here... I dunno, I may be a simple man, but I never thought that swearing robbed an action of nobility. Make sure you never stub your toe as you help an old lady across the road, thats all I can say....but I'll be :):):):)ED! if I let prat-hat over there be final judge of my actions. The only one who has the right to do that is the person who can kill me." Feng sets his mouth in a grim line. The Wizard Nosnibor looks directly at the half orc "Feng i absolutely agree with your point of view. And i absolutely apologize. I have no right to stand in judgment over your behavior until i have stood in line of death with you in the battle over evil. Until such time as i have done so i will withdraw my comments and my swear box. However i do still believe the truth of my earlier points. Though, as you have so eloquently stated, i do not have the right to express them here. Again you have my humblest apologies. We will return to this topic of discussion when that time comes." The Wizard Nosnibor pulls out a small bag "Does anyone want a boiled sweety?" Feng suddenly laughs "Mage. I am at fault. I should take my own advice. It's only words, after all. Carry on with whatever you want to say. I just won't promise to listen.... but I tell ya what - if ever it seems that I cannot rage-in-battle, just give me some more crack-brained advice, and it should sort me out nicely." Feng takes a sweetie and slobbers noisily “Nos...i like you. You have upstanding values, your Aunty must be proud....and thank you for the candy." Says Limara as she takes a sweet. Bibabobalobalos scratches his beard, looks at The Wizard Nosnibor and shakes his head. Coleridge speaks "You make some interesting observations Nosi, but as others have pointed out we would no more have someone else's opinion about our use of language rammed down our throats, than we would have another’s religious beliefs thrust upon us. You also need to ask yourself about the derivation of a great many words, many that you view as acceptable alternatives to common slang words, were themselves slang derivations in the development of our common tongue... and you call the words common, but does that necessarily make them wrong, as with all words it is the context in which they are used.. you can be derisive, hurtful and downright nasty without uttering one word which you view as an expletive.. and make someone feel better and brighten someone’s day by using a phrase which is full of them" Coleridge continues "There is no bad language, all language is beautiful in its intricacies and development, there are only bad ways in which people use language... but the debate seems to be over now anyway, i just wished to added my 2cp worth, cos words are important to me and my profession" Sparhawk speaks up "If we have finished discussing the finer points of language and eating sweets and worrying about wollen hats and such like can we please focus and get on with this neighbours" "You can't knock a good boiled sweet Spar" Coleridge grins The party travel on, following the mine tracks [/QUOTE]
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