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<blockquote data-quote="R_Chance" data-source="post: 8175657" data-attributes="member: 55149"><p>Actually wargamer / miniature gamers were the whole market for the game in 1974. It eventually spread to others. TSR sold miniature rules to miniature gamers. As for bolting things on, we expected that. I think I mentioned that pretty much every group I played the same miniature rule sets with had different house rules, even in the same town. It was typical. So, no D&Ds sparse three booklets wasn't a big deal, it was larger than most miniature rules out at the time. The individual booklets were a bit shorter, but three of them, in a box! That was BIG. Looking at the shelves full of RPG books I have right now (and the boxes of stuff I have in the closet) that is funny <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin :D" data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /></p><p></p><p>OD&D had a three plus year run before Basic and AD&D came along. The original Basic D&D was a level 1-3 intro set based on D&D and Greyhawk (OD&D Supplement 1). That came out in 1977. AD&D rolled out over a three year period from 1977 to 1979. One hard back a year. That would drive people crazy now wouldn't it? <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin :D" data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /> The Monster Manual came first (1977), the Players Handbook second (1978) and, finally, the DMG (1979). As a complete rule set, 1979. Until then we treated the Monster Manual like we did the D&D supplements that came out in 1975-6. The PHB made some changes, but really not too much. After the full AD&D rule set was published they revamped Basic D&D... in 1981 iirc. At that point you could see the differences clearly. </p><p></p><p>Different world back then in terms of RPGs. It is absolutely huge now in comparison, and obviously much more diverse.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="R_Chance, post: 8175657, member: 55149"] Actually wargamer / miniature gamers were the whole market for the game in 1974. It eventually spread to others. TSR sold miniature rules to miniature gamers. As for bolting things on, we expected that. I think I mentioned that pretty much every group I played the same miniature rule sets with had different house rules, even in the same town. It was typical. So, no D&Ds sparse three booklets wasn't a big deal, it was larger than most miniature rules out at the time. The individual booklets were a bit shorter, but three of them, in a box! That was BIG. Looking at the shelves full of RPG books I have right now (and the boxes of stuff I have in the closet) that is funny :D OD&D had a three plus year run before Basic and AD&D came along. The original Basic D&D was a level 1-3 intro set based on D&D and Greyhawk (OD&D Supplement 1). That came out in 1977. AD&D rolled out over a three year period from 1977 to 1979. One hard back a year. That would drive people crazy now wouldn't it? :D The Monster Manual came first (1977), the Players Handbook second (1978) and, finally, the DMG (1979). As a complete rule set, 1979. Until then we treated the Monster Manual like we did the D&D supplements that came out in 1975-6. The PHB made some changes, but really not too much. After the full AD&D rule set was published they revamped Basic D&D... in 1981 iirc. At that point you could see the differences clearly. Different world back then in terms of RPGs. It is absolutely huge now in comparison, and obviously much more diverse. [/QUOTE]
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