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<blockquote data-quote="Umbran" data-source="post: 7575026" data-attributes="member: 177"><p>You seem to be very stuck on how public complaints are the measure. If that's to be the measure, then we need to be even handed about it. Comparing "TOS didn't get major complaints" to "I felt uncomfortable" is not apples-to-apples. What episodes of The Orville have received major public backlash that tell us that this show is less family friendly than TOS? </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>We are talking about media, in which the industry has some agreed upon definitions of the term, is all I mean. They didn't have to bleep any of the language, nor fuzz out images, is what I mean.</p><p></p><p>Did they state clearly what was going on? Yes. Did that get the FCC on them? No.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I dunno if that's a great measure, because I don't know how often networks were choosing to specifically match-up head-to-head in time slots. If you're putting up Gomer Pyle, maybe they'd try to compete directly for the same viewers, or maybe they'd put up a show that appeals to people who aren't interested in Gomer. That's why I listed a bunch of shows, regardless of time slot, to demonstrate the breadth of content, to illustrate what was really "family" content at the time. I am suggesting that Trek was *way* more intellectual and nuanced than most of the real "family" shows of the time.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Everyone has their own level of comfort with various imagery and topics, and all of them are okay. But I figure your, or my, individual reactions aren't the telling point. We are anecdotes, not data, so to speak.</p><p></p><p>I thought we were talking about the appeal more broadly - specifically, was Trek in the day really "family" content, and how much *less* family-oriented is the Orville, for the audiences of today.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Umbran, post: 7575026, member: 177"] You seem to be very stuck on how public complaints are the measure. If that's to be the measure, then we need to be even handed about it. Comparing "TOS didn't get major complaints" to "I felt uncomfortable" is not apples-to-apples. What episodes of The Orville have received major public backlash that tell us that this show is less family friendly than TOS? We are talking about media, in which the industry has some agreed upon definitions of the term, is all I mean. They didn't have to bleep any of the language, nor fuzz out images, is what I mean. Did they state clearly what was going on? Yes. Did that get the FCC on them? No. I dunno if that's a great measure, because I don't know how often networks were choosing to specifically match-up head-to-head in time slots. If you're putting up Gomer Pyle, maybe they'd try to compete directly for the same viewers, or maybe they'd put up a show that appeals to people who aren't interested in Gomer. That's why I listed a bunch of shows, regardless of time slot, to demonstrate the breadth of content, to illustrate what was really "family" content at the time. I am suggesting that Trek was *way* more intellectual and nuanced than most of the real "family" shows of the time. Everyone has their own level of comfort with various imagery and topics, and all of them are okay. But I figure your, or my, individual reactions aren't the telling point. We are anecdotes, not data, so to speak. I thought we were talking about the appeal more broadly - specifically, was Trek in the day really "family" content, and how much *less* family-oriented is the Orville, for the audiences of today. [/QUOTE]
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