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<blockquote data-quote="Mustrum_Ridcully" data-source="post: 7234598" data-attributes="member: 710"><p>Not to be overly nitpicky and critical, but to be overly nitpicky and critical, the most similar TNG episode also had a similar ending. </p><p></p><p>[sblock]</p><p>There was an episode where Riker fell in love with a researcher from a species that (supposedly) had no genders, but the researcher in question self-identified as female. The show ends with her getting the standard brainwash treatment to make her feel asexual again. (I'd almost argue that this is more horrifying then the idea of making a sex change on a newborn, as it's alterting an established person's sense of self against her will.) In both shows, it might be however that the person in question will still live a happy life afterwards. [/sblock]</p><p></p><p>To me it feels a bit like a rehash of a 25 year old story, really. (But it has some advantages compared to then - they didn't dare to give the self-identified female an actual androgenous figure, for example, she was clearly a female actress, so the viewer could see a man and a woman interacting, just with some alien make-up on the female.) Orville actually had a genuine male couple on screen (Of course, both with their alien make-up) and it kinda is a double twist in that regard. I suppose that might acually also highlight a bit of progress - studios these days don't seen to treat a homosexual couple as controversial as they used to in the 80s.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Mustrum_Ridcully, post: 7234598, member: 710"] Not to be overly nitpicky and critical, but to be overly nitpicky and critical, the most similar TNG episode also had a similar ending. [sblock] There was an episode where Riker fell in love with a researcher from a species that (supposedly) had no genders, but the researcher in question self-identified as female. The show ends with her getting the standard brainwash treatment to make her feel asexual again. (I'd almost argue that this is more horrifying then the idea of making a sex change on a newborn, as it's alterting an established person's sense of self against her will.) In both shows, it might be however that the person in question will still live a happy life afterwards. [/sblock] To me it feels a bit like a rehash of a 25 year old story, really. (But it has some advantages compared to then - they didn't dare to give the self-identified female an actual androgenous figure, for example, she was clearly a female actress, so the viewer could see a man and a woman interacting, just with some alien make-up on the female.) Orville actually had a genuine male couple on screen (Of course, both with their alien make-up) and it kinda is a double twist in that regard. I suppose that might acually also highlight a bit of progress - studios these days don't seen to treat a homosexual couple as controversial as they used to in the 80s. [/QUOTE]
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