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<blockquote data-quote="BOZ" data-source="post: 6123035" data-attributes="member: 1241"><p>I am trying to identify all the source of information on the outer planes that were printed pre-Planescape. So yes, I’m expanding the definition to the original D&D just prior to the release of AD&D, and I figure we might as well include the sparse mentions from early second edition (up through 1993) before the first Planescape boxed set was released.</p><p></p><p>My understanding is that the outer planes were first mentioned in Dragon magazine #8 (1977), outlined briefly by Gary Gygax, with a similar presentation not long after that in the 1978 Players Handbook. I don't know if they were all given detail as a group until 1987 in the Manual of the Planes, but I know that some of them received individual attention in Dragon and other places, so that's what I'm trying to ascertain.</p><p></p><p>Looking through articles on Wikipedia, I created the following list:</p><p></p><p>"The Politics of Hell" in Dragon #28</p><p>The original first edition Deities and Demigods</p><p>Ed Greenwood’s articles on the Nine Hells in Dragon 75-76 and 91</p><p>"Plane Facts on Gladsheim" in Dragon 90</p><p>Throne of Bloodstone details the Abyss</p><p>Tales of the Outer Planes includes adventures on various planes</p><p></p><p>The second edition Player's Handbook is also mentioned as a source, but I doubt there was much detail. I don't think second edition really got into the outer planes until the Monstrous Compendium Outer Planes Appendix (1991).</p><p></p><p>Quick name-drops like "this monster is native to the Nine Hells" and "this god's realm is in Elysium" are fine; better than that is at least a sentence or two worth of detail, like "this god's realm in Elysium is filled with butterflies and flowers, with singing bunnies" or "this monster serves the lords of the Nine Hells by eliminating lesser creatures that try to assassinate them". Better still would be anything that actually gives some level of detail on the environment, the natives, or anything about the nature of one or more of the outer planes.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="BOZ, post: 6123035, member: 1241"] I am trying to identify all the source of information on the outer planes that were printed pre-Planescape. So yes, I’m expanding the definition to the original D&D just prior to the release of AD&D, and I figure we might as well include the sparse mentions from early second edition (up through 1993) before the first Planescape boxed set was released. My understanding is that the outer planes were first mentioned in Dragon magazine #8 (1977), outlined briefly by Gary Gygax, with a similar presentation not long after that in the 1978 Players Handbook. I don't know if they were all given detail as a group until 1987 in the Manual of the Planes, but I know that some of them received individual attention in Dragon and other places, so that's what I'm trying to ascertain. Looking through articles on Wikipedia, I created the following list: "The Politics of Hell" in Dragon #28 The original first edition Deities and Demigods Ed Greenwood’s articles on the Nine Hells in Dragon 75-76 and 91 "Plane Facts on Gladsheim" in Dragon 90 Throne of Bloodstone details the Abyss Tales of the Outer Planes includes adventures on various planes The second edition Player's Handbook is also mentioned as a source, but I doubt there was much detail. I don't think second edition really got into the outer planes until the Monstrous Compendium Outer Planes Appendix (1991). Quick name-drops like "this monster is native to the Nine Hells" and "this god's realm is in Elysium" are fine; better than that is at least a sentence or two worth of detail, like "this god's realm in Elysium is filled with butterflies and flowers, with singing bunnies" or "this monster serves the lords of the Nine Hells by eliminating lesser creatures that try to assassinate them". Better still would be anything that actually gives some level of detail on the environment, the natives, or anything about the nature of one or more of the outer planes. [/QUOTE]
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