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Message: <blockquote data-quote="LordBOB" data-source="post: 2707623" data-attributes="member: 33140">ok i didnt read all the posts but from what ive read i DONT think the paladin should be punished by loosing his powers.  Your player didnt actually kill the Halfling, he only "Ruffled" him up a little.  If the fight would of continued you could of done something like this:Halfling is almost dead.Dm: if you continue this you will kill the Hafling this round.Player: I know, and i plan to cut his head off!!!!  ( this might be punishable)               ORDm: if you continue this you will kill the Hafling this round.Player: Ok i wont kill him, but ill due non-lethal damage in order to knock him out this round thus tying him up and sending him to the police.  ( no punishment what-so-ever... i would congratulate the Paladin for doing the right thing......only my views)Also dont forget that each city has different rules.Also you should ask what the player thinks about the situation and what should done.  IF his curch is a little loose on the rules than the paladin might have to incorporate some of his own rules into whats going on.  If the player can put up a good argument and stand his ground and give you good solid reasons for doing what he did than i wouldnt punish himJust because the chirch says one thing they probably arent aware of what it is like out on   the road and what happens in the heat of the moment.  You and the player should have a good talk and you should both come to an agreement.Ive had this happen to my paladin multiple times and as long as i was able to justify my action and prove that what i did was either not wrong or for the greater good than my DM allowed it.  I dont go around doing this all the time but sometimes you cant advoid this stuff.Also, what if during a fight in the streets a paladin  attacks his opponent and cause the enemy to fly backwards into an innocent citizen thus killing him....should the pladin be punished?  I say this b/c it was a direct action from the paladin that cause the citizen to be killed.... so technically the paladin killed an innocent person.....so is it the paladins fault and what would happen?</blockquote>

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