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Message: <blockquote data-quote="ThoughtBubble" data-source="post: 2708973" data-attributes="member: 9723">Ahem. Wow. I wish I had replied to this thread this morning.Every time I read a paladin thread, I think the same things. So, it's time to break out the typical paladin questionaire:Does this player have a history of 'shaky' behavior or 'unpaldinishness'?Is this a shades of grey campaign, or is it angled more towards killing the evil denziens of the dungeon?Is your player thick skinned and able to deal with losing his powers fairly well? Would he take it badly?Have you talked to your player about it? Does he feel that he deserves to lose his powers?Here's my typical paladin response:I tend to follow the line of thinking that the paladin is right. I've found that I trust my players well enough to stick to the concept of their characters. So, in situations where we might have a disagreement, I find that there is usually a compelling enough arguement that my players can make that I don't feel the need to argue the point.In situations where a paladin has crossed the line, I reccomend against removing all of his abilities. I reccomend smaller steps. In a case where a paladin neglects mercy, reduce (or remove) the power of his Lay on Hands ability. It gets the same point across. However it avoids stonewalling the issue, and may help in the case where a player would feel useless after losing his abilities.With regards to your situation, I have to ask: Did you have any plans of sacrificing his wife, turning his unborn child into an unholy monster, and generally forcing the paladin between choosing between his family and the safety of the world? I just have to ask, because I've read a lot of paladin threads. On a more serious note, do you trust this player? How does he feel about the situation?My advice is to forget morality, forget plans, and go with what makes the game most fun.However, I urge you greatly to venture cautiously into the land of power loss, as many people don't find it fun.And, after reading this, I have just one thing to say. If I do get a chance to play the paladin character I have in mind, he's going to be a loner orphan with no friends. Because, really, it seems like having friends or family as a paladin is just asking to be slapped with power-drain.By the way, I would still like to hear an answer to Wulf's original question. "What did you expect to happen?"</blockquote>

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