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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Patryn of Elvenshae" data-source="post: 2713567" data-attributes="member: 23094">I'm sorry; the temporary nature of your proposed punishment was not clear from your initial post:Yes.  I'm also pretty sure that it would be a particularly crappy thing to have to roleplay through.  It'd probably be better to just skip to the pillar of salt stage and roll up a new character.  <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":p" title="Stick out tongue    :p"  data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":p" />Also, is what you are proposing really a test of faith?  Is the PC (and, more importantly, the player) likely to see it that way?  I wouldn't.Furthermore, we're talking about a wife and unborn child who have already been "assaulted."  How much are you willing to bet that whatever shadowy presence invaded her room in the middle of the night dropped by just to say "Hi"?  I'd give even odds, at best, that the unborn child is already in a heap of trouble, regardless of what the Paladin does from here on out.  How does this tie in with your ideas on testing the Paladin's faith?Again, this just seems to be further proof that backstories and in-character relationships are there so that the DM can hose you with them.  Can it be a great hook to have what you love directly threatened?  Absolutely.  Can it motivate you to go out and save the world?  Certainly.  Am I tired of it being overused?  You betcha.If you want to give the Paladin a mandate from on high, give him a prophetic dream of what will happen to his grown son should the Paladin fall: enemies the Paladin would have dispatched or routed gain enough power to take over this section of the world, the child grows up under the influence of some resulting dark cult, and becomes a powerful blackguard in his own right, using the anger he inherited from his father.</blockquote>

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