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<blockquote data-quote="Numion" data-source="post: 2715936" data-attributes="member: 124"><p>That wasn't the picture I was trying to paint. I've stated before that in this case the Paladin could've also let the authorities punish the halfling, once he's reasonably sure that he wasn't the mastermind behind the whole thing and only an accomplice to breaking and entering, assault and obstructing the Paladins fight against evil. Those three things, IMO, warrant a severe penalty. </p><p></p><p>Where are you getting murder, rape, loot and pillaging? The Paladin can't do any of those things, except for looting sometimes in the form of confiscating stuff from his enemies. He can't murder anybody, but he can kill and execute targets fitting the justifications in his Code. That's why he has 'Smite Evil', and last time I checked it doesn't deal subdual damage. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I never said he could kill evil people 'at will'. He must follow the Code. It says what his duties at the minimum are. The section which relates to this case is, for the Nth time, "punish those who harm or threaten to harm innocents". No provisions are made for the <em>harmee</em>'s alignment. The Halfling was fair game becaue he was involved in a plot to harm innocents, regardless of his alignment. </p><p></p><p>And you <em>do</em> realize that in the D&D world there really <em>are</em> races and nations that are 'always evil'? So they don't "believe them evil", like you said, they <em>know</em> it! That kinda makes the argument for crusades sound good, if it's done without raping or any other evil activity. Or should the Paladins living next to Mordor do nothing, or should they be having some plans for a large military assault (say, named Operation Crusade) to overthrow Sauron?</p><p></p><p>I believe in pro-active vs. reactive Paladins. They wouldn't police Mordors borders, but actively go looking for the bad guys instead of waiting them to make their move.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Numion, post: 2715936, member: 124"] That wasn't the picture I was trying to paint. I've stated before that in this case the Paladin could've also let the authorities punish the halfling, once he's reasonably sure that he wasn't the mastermind behind the whole thing and only an accomplice to breaking and entering, assault and obstructing the Paladins fight against evil. Those three things, IMO, warrant a severe penalty. Where are you getting murder, rape, loot and pillaging? The Paladin can't do any of those things, except for looting sometimes in the form of confiscating stuff from his enemies. He can't murder anybody, but he can kill and execute targets fitting the justifications in his Code. That's why he has 'Smite Evil', and last time I checked it doesn't deal subdual damage. I never said he could kill evil people 'at will'. He must follow the Code. It says what his duties at the minimum are. The section which relates to this case is, for the Nth time, "punish those who harm or threaten to harm innocents". No provisions are made for the [i]harmee[/i]'s alignment. The Halfling was fair game becaue he was involved in a plot to harm innocents, regardless of his alignment. And you [i]do[/i] realize that in the D&D world there really [i]are[/i] races and nations that are 'always evil'? So they don't "believe them evil", like you said, they [i]know[/i] it! That kinda makes the argument for crusades sound good, if it's done without raping or any other evil activity. Or should the Paladins living next to Mordor do nothing, or should they be having some plans for a large military assault (say, named Operation Crusade) to overthrow Sauron? I believe in pro-active vs. reactive Paladins. They wouldn't police Mordors borders, but actively go looking for the bad guys instead of waiting them to make their move. [/QUOTE]
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