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<blockquote data-quote="Demmero" data-source="post: 2717171" data-attributes="member: 13641"><p>No it doesn't. What you've done is switched your emphasis from <strong>respect</strong> legitimate authority to respect <strong>legitimate</strong> authority. An authority that routinely has children killed would not be respected or acknowledged by a LG paladin in the first place, and thus would not be legitimate to him.</p><p></p><p>The paladin in question accepted his place in the city's nobility/caste structure, and acknowledged that there were folks above him whose wishes/beliefs/power might supercede his own. He was told that there were ways things were handled, and he accepted those conditions (presumably, since it was a Lawful Good city, its tenets were comfortably close enough to those of his own and his church's).</p><p></p><p>He has accepted the city's laws and rulers as legitimate authority figures and chosen to respect them...up until he shows a callous disregard for that authority by carrying out an unlawful execution.</p><p></p><p>He did not respect legitimate authority; he's broken the paladin's code of conduct.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I agree only if you're talking about your god's tenets in relation to the code of conduct, but I'd add that they shouldn't just be tossed aside when they're inconvenient (like when a paladin of Heironeous (who's big on Justice) ignores an authority that he's already deemed legitimate and takes the law (brutally) into his own hands).</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Taking this statement at face value, though, my answer is: Hell yes he does! Or come darn close to it! If any element of the code comes into play in any single encounter, he's got to act in accordance with each and every one of 'em.</p><p></p><p>According to what you wrote, a LG paladin could use poison (against the code), provided that poison wasn't against a legitimate authority that he recognized (that may be a stretch), to take out a group of baddies who are holding children hostage (help those in need, punish those who threaten innocents). He's acting according to code...except for using poison to get the job done. And that's a code violation in spite of what he did right on the other points of the code.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Meh.</p></blockquote><p>[/QUOTE]</p>
[QUOTE="Demmero, post: 2717171, member: 13641"] No it doesn't. What you've done is switched your emphasis from [B]respect[/B] legitimate authority to respect [B]legitimate[/B] authority. An authority that routinely has children killed would not be respected or acknowledged by a LG paladin in the first place, and thus would not be legitimate to him. The paladin in question accepted his place in the city's nobility/caste structure, and acknowledged that there were folks above him whose wishes/beliefs/power might supercede his own. He was told that there were ways things were handled, and he accepted those conditions (presumably, since it was a Lawful Good city, its tenets were comfortably close enough to those of his own and his church's). He has accepted the city's laws and rulers as legitimate authority figures and chosen to respect them...up until he shows a callous disregard for that authority by carrying out an unlawful execution. He did not respect legitimate authority; he's broken the paladin's code of conduct. I agree only if you're talking about your god's tenets in relation to the code of conduct, but I'd add that they shouldn't just be tossed aside when they're inconvenient (like when a paladin of Heironeous (who's big on Justice) ignores an authority that he's already deemed legitimate and takes the law (brutally) into his own hands). Taking this statement at face value, though, my answer is: Hell yes he does! Or come darn close to it! If any element of the code comes into play in any single encounter, he's got to act in accordance with each and every one of 'em. According to what you wrote, a LG paladin could use poison (against the code), provided that poison wasn't against a legitimate authority that he recognized (that may be a stretch), to take out a group of baddies who are holding children hostage (help those in need, punish those who threaten innocents). He's acting according to code...except for using poison to get the job done. And that's a code violation in spite of what he did right on the other points of the code. Meh. [/QUOTE] [/QUOTE]
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