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[The Paladin Project] The Blessed Armsman - a Pal/Ftr PrC (revised 31/5)
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<blockquote data-quote="Derrick Reeves" data-source="post: 898428" data-attributes="member: 8427"><p>Needs work.</p><p></p><p>It's a rare Paladin character who wouldn't take, say, Power Attack (for Divine Might) and Weapon Focus by 3rd level - the feat requirement is meaningless.</p><p></p><p>The armour proficiencies I'm ambivalent about - I don't think it likely that a non-warrior class would take levels in this PrC, and you can disincentivise that sort of behaviour by removing the Armsman's own armour proficiencies. (In other words: remove the prerequisites for heavy armour and shields, and remove the proficiences for the same.)</p><p></p><p>As for Martial Weapons, do you have a clear image of these guys in your head? Maybe requiring a particular proficiency would be more appropriate, or two/three from a list of three to five. (Likely, such a list would be something like: any Lance, Longbow or Shortbow, Longsword, any Pick, Warhammer.)</p><p></p><p>I have no idea what you mean by "trade in" for the abilities. If you mean that it works like a Divine Feat, then the standard lingo is "expend one of his daily uses of XXXX". Even so, I think that the abilities where you're looking to do this would be better as standard abilities. Frex. Blessing of Might would add 1 point of Holy damage to weapon damage dealt to evil foes.</p><p></p><p>I suggest that the Sacred Blessing ability use the Loremaster mechanic (say, Blessed Armsman level + Wisdom/Charisma bonus?). This does require giving the abilities a hierarchal order.</p><p></p><p>Looking over everything, it seems rather overpowered. Let's say your character is a Fighter with one of those obnoxious FRCS feats that allows him to take Knowledge (Religion) as a class skill. On attaining 6th level, this PrC is a no-brainer - he gets to keep his bonus feats (when he wants them), and gets added abilities. Further, he is all but forced to take the prerequisites! Unless every fighter and his dog is supposed to be a Blessed Armsman, I think you need to review the prerequisites and abilities granted.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Derrick Reeves, post: 898428, member: 8427"] Needs work. It's a rare Paladin character who wouldn't take, say, Power Attack (for Divine Might) and Weapon Focus by 3rd level - the feat requirement is meaningless. The armour proficiencies I'm ambivalent about - I don't think it likely that a non-warrior class would take levels in this PrC, and you can disincentivise that sort of behaviour by removing the Armsman's own armour proficiencies. (In other words: remove the prerequisites for heavy armour and shields, and remove the proficiences for the same.) As for Martial Weapons, do you have a clear image of these guys in your head? Maybe requiring a particular proficiency would be more appropriate, or two/three from a list of three to five. (Likely, such a list would be something like: any Lance, Longbow or Shortbow, Longsword, any Pick, Warhammer.) I have no idea what you mean by "trade in" for the abilities. If you mean that it works like a Divine Feat, then the standard lingo is "expend one of his daily uses of XXXX". Even so, I think that the abilities where you're looking to do this would be better as standard abilities. Frex. Blessing of Might would add 1 point of Holy damage to weapon damage dealt to evil foes. I suggest that the Sacred Blessing ability use the Loremaster mechanic (say, Blessed Armsman level + Wisdom/Charisma bonus?). This does require giving the abilities a hierarchal order. Looking over everything, it seems rather overpowered. Let's say your character is a Fighter with one of those obnoxious FRCS feats that allows him to take Knowledge (Religion) as a class skill. On attaining 6th level, this PrC is a no-brainer - he gets to keep his bonus feats (when he wants them), and gets added abilities. Further, he is all but forced to take the prerequisites! Unless every fighter and his dog is supposed to be a Blessed Armsman, I think you need to review the prerequisites and abilities granted. [/QUOTE]
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