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[The Paladin Project] The Holy Vassal - a Pal/Clr PrC
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<blockquote data-quote="brento766" data-source="post: 1260651" data-attributes="member: 15020"><p><strong>overpowered or not?</strong></p><p></p><p>This class is way overpowered. Lets look at the original classes involved: cleric and paladin. What is the main difference? The spells vs the attacks. You just gave them both. And it wasn't like you really restricted your players on getting the class either, if they plan on going divine, there is no reason why they shouldn't go this class. Therefore, you should either reduce the attack prog. or reduce the +1 cleric spell prog, or both. Just because it is a prestige class doesn't mean it is supposed to be way more powerful than the other classes. It is supposed to be pseudo balanced.</p><p></p><p>Then you have spell accesses. These are a few of the very special traits of palys. Your big payoff is when you take the paly to high levels and you get these sweet spells. But now any divine can have them.</p><p></p><p>And just because you don't think remove disease is an all around great ability doesn't mean that you should sac it for more powerful spells. It was given to palys for a reason, that reason: balance. If your pissed because you never get to use it, ask your dm to put in situations where it will be useful, not ask to cast a more powerful spell like restoration.</p><p></p><p>As far as spell smite goes, I would say that first of all, paladin is not an overall casting class, so when you go to add damage, it should go off of cleric level, not paladin level. That way, you have people that specialize in doing combat damage (more paladin than cleric) and some that specialize in spell damage (more cleric than paladin). Also, the ablitiy is not a weak one, so why should you be able to sac out regualar smites for it and not the other way around? I would just say stay with the alloted amounts. If you don't use them, poor for you.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="brento766, post: 1260651, member: 15020"] [b]overpowered or not?[/b] This class is way overpowered. Lets look at the original classes involved: cleric and paladin. What is the main difference? The spells vs the attacks. You just gave them both. And it wasn't like you really restricted your players on getting the class either, if they plan on going divine, there is no reason why they shouldn't go this class. Therefore, you should either reduce the attack prog. or reduce the +1 cleric spell prog, or both. Just because it is a prestige class doesn't mean it is supposed to be way more powerful than the other classes. It is supposed to be pseudo balanced. Then you have spell accesses. These are a few of the very special traits of palys. Your big payoff is when you take the paly to high levels and you get these sweet spells. But now any divine can have them. And just because you don't think remove disease is an all around great ability doesn't mean that you should sac it for more powerful spells. It was given to palys for a reason, that reason: balance. If your pissed because you never get to use it, ask your dm to put in situations where it will be useful, not ask to cast a more powerful spell like restoration. As far as spell smite goes, I would say that first of all, paladin is not an overall casting class, so when you go to add damage, it should go off of cleric level, not paladin level. That way, you have people that specialize in doing combat damage (more paladin than cleric) and some that specialize in spell damage (more cleric than paladin). Also, the ablitiy is not a weak one, so why should you be able to sac out regualar smites for it and not the other way around? I would just say stay with the alloted amounts. If you don't use them, poor for you. [/QUOTE]
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