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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Desdichado" data-source="post: 2948673" data-attributes="member: 2205">NOTE: to further clarify my position; the reason I have a problem with making someone either play a cleric, or play a cleric a certain way is because the role of being a medic is just plain boring to many players, myself included.  Based on my experience amongst many groups, it's probably boring for most players; I've always had a really hard time finding someone who wanted to play a cleric in any gaming group I've ever been in.  Basically, it just sucks to watch the rest of the party off doing all kinds of things while you're stuck with running around casting CMW over and over again in every combat.  Making someone get stuck with that role, or complaining that they're not "doing their part for the group" is pretty hypocritical to me.  You're playing the guy who has three attacks and can jump in and do crazy damage; you're playing the guy who can tumble and do crazy sneak attack damage not to mention starring whenever we get into any sneaking or scouting role, which happens a lot, and you get to do cool things like fry multiple enemies at once with a fireball spell, and what've I got?  I get to cast Bull's STR on you before the combat, and CMW/CLW on you during and after it.  Whoop-de-freaking-doo.So I say give the guy a break.  If the adventure demands that someone play a certain role then that sucks, then that's bad DMing.  The adventure should be subtley modified to allow for it to be done differently.  If the other players are demanding that the cleric be played a certain way, they can either do it themselves or shut the <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> up.</blockquote>

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