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<blockquote data-quote="GameDoc" data-source="post: 6408575" data-attributes="member: 53915"><p>To be clear, I don't think that the DM vs. player dynamic is the norm and did not intend to overstate it's frequency. But it does occur and will continue to do so from time to time. My hope is that 5e has learned form history and can help keep that to a minimum, knowing full well it's not going to end it completely. When it does happen I agree it's probably a play style thing for the most part.</p><p></p><p>I think what 5e has presented so far is a rebalancing on both sides of the screen so that players have lots of options and DMs have lots of ways to let players enjoy their characters while also being able to set a particular style or tone for their game. I've always encouraged players who don't DM to view the setting the DM has put forth as "the DM's character". It's bad form to be overly critical of your fellow player's stylistic choices for their character and to a certain extent it's bad form to belittle the DMs concept for the setting, even if it's not how you'd have done it. The DM has a right to run a setting he or she enjoys as much as the player has a right to play a character he or she enjoys.</p><p></p><p>At any rate, my concern was about DMs who've felt overly bogged down by rules, player expectations, and such using their newfound latitude in 5e to "fix" what's been wrong with D&D in their minds without thought to how it effects players. Again, those may be rare cases and not typical of what's going on in D&D right now, because but I thought it warranted discussion.</p><p></p><p>When I referred to the "nuclear option" I did not mean that it isn't sometimes the correct solution of that it's necessarily an indication of failure. But as the game is as much about a social activity for making and spending time with friends, a little flexibility on everyone's part seems necessary, whether its a player accepting house rules or a DM tweaking the setting or plot to make space for somethng a player is interested in.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="GameDoc, post: 6408575, member: 53915"] To be clear, I don't think that the DM vs. player dynamic is the norm and did not intend to overstate it's frequency. But it does occur and will continue to do so from time to time. My hope is that 5e has learned form history and can help keep that to a minimum, knowing full well it's not going to end it completely. When it does happen I agree it's probably a play style thing for the most part. I think what 5e has presented so far is a rebalancing on both sides of the screen so that players have lots of options and DMs have lots of ways to let players enjoy their characters while also being able to set a particular style or tone for their game. I've always encouraged players who don't DM to view the setting the DM has put forth as "the DM's character". It's bad form to be overly critical of your fellow player's stylistic choices for their character and to a certain extent it's bad form to belittle the DMs concept for the setting, even if it's not how you'd have done it. The DM has a right to run a setting he or she enjoys as much as the player has a right to play a character he or she enjoys. At any rate, my concern was about DMs who've felt overly bogged down by rules, player expectations, and such using their newfound latitude in 5e to "fix" what's been wrong with D&D in their minds without thought to how it effects players. Again, those may be rare cases and not typical of what's going on in D&D right now, because but I thought it warranted discussion. When I referred to the "nuclear option" I did not mean that it isn't sometimes the correct solution of that it's necessarily an indication of failure. But as the game is as much about a social activity for making and spending time with friends, a little flexibility on everyone's part seems necessary, whether its a player accepting house rules or a DM tweaking the setting or plot to make space for somethng a player is interested in. [/QUOTE]
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