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<blockquote data-quote="Tony Vargas" data-source="post: 7627479" data-attributes="member: 996"><p>That "leader" in the 4e Role or Warlord concept = character will be "party leader" or player will be bossing other players around. </p><p></p><p>We have had long conversations explaining this too you in detail why that it is not a case. That the 'leadership' provided in concept by the warlord does not amount to being party leader, does not imply an unequal social relationship (unlike, say the Noble background) and does not imply one player bossing others around. Yet you continue to express these groundless fears.</p><p></p><p>You cannot plead ignorance or absence for the edition war any longer, you are spreading misinformation. I invite you, again, to stop.</p><p></p><p>Of course, you can always use the old dodge of ranting for a whole post like what you're saying is true, then dropping a desultory IMHO at the end.</p><p></p><p>But, seriously, I have had enough of this dictating what other people can play agenda you're pushing. It's derogatory and offensive.</p><p></p><p>If you don't care for an edition, role, class or class concept, fine, don't play it, don't opt into it if it ever appears as an option, but stop begrudging others the opportunity to do so.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Tony Vargas, post: 7627479, member: 996"] That "leader" in the 4e Role or Warlord concept = character will be "party leader" or player will be bossing other players around. We have had long conversations explaining this too you in detail why that it is not a case. That the 'leadership' provided in concept by the warlord does not amount to being party leader, does not imply an unequal social relationship (unlike, say the Noble background) and does not imply one player bossing others around. Yet you continue to express these groundless fears. You cannot plead ignorance or absence for the edition war any longer, you are spreading misinformation. I invite you, again, to stop. Of course, you can always use the old dodge of ranting for a whole post like what you're saying is true, then dropping a desultory IMHO at the end. But, seriously, I have had enough of this dictating what other people can play agenda you're pushing. It's derogatory and offensive. If you don't care for an edition, role, class or class concept, fine, don't play it, don't opt into it if it ever appears as an option, but stop begrudging others the opportunity to do so. [/QUOTE]
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