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<blockquote data-quote="Guest 6801328" data-source="post: 7627526"><p>Why is it that in your responses you <em>never</em> address the evidence I repeatedly cite? Namely all the content out there (forum posts, homebrews, etc.) that describe the Warlord pretty much exactly like I'm claiming? You keep falling back on this "The Leader was not literally a Leader" thing. Is that really your only response to my observations about how it's portrayed in the community? </p><p></p><p>Again, if you don't like that characterization, go attack those people for their misperceptions, not me for taking the preponderance of evidence at face value.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Do you really and truly not understand how my argument that you dismiss is perfectly symmetric to yours? Or do you really believe that "being forced to play a class" is the only possible form of imposition?</p><p></p><p>Look, I know from your past posts that it's REALLY important to you to have strictly non-magical powers. Not re-fluffed magical powers, but really and truly non-magical ones. I don't get that, but, hey, you have a right to wish for that. That's your thing.</p><p></p><p>My thing is that I really don't like being told what my character thinks. And so many things about the Warlord...again, the versions I see today, not whatever was in some book 15 years ago...simply scream "your character admires/obeys this other person's character." So in my mind that <em>is</em> you dictating to me how to play. My only option is to mentally re-fluff it into magic (or something), which is exactly what you yourself refuse to do regarding magical healing.</p><p></p><p>Be careful getting down from that high horse. It's a long drop.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Guest 6801328, post: 7627526"] Why is it that in your responses you [I]never[/I] address the evidence I repeatedly cite? Namely all the content out there (forum posts, homebrews, etc.) that describe the Warlord pretty much exactly like I'm claiming? You keep falling back on this "The Leader was not literally a Leader" thing. Is that really your only response to my observations about how it's portrayed in the community? Again, if you don't like that characterization, go attack those people for their misperceptions, not me for taking the preponderance of evidence at face value. Do you really and truly not understand how my argument that you dismiss is perfectly symmetric to yours? Or do you really believe that "being forced to play a class" is the only possible form of imposition? Look, I know from your past posts that it's REALLY important to you to have strictly non-magical powers. Not re-fluffed magical powers, but really and truly non-magical ones. I don't get that, but, hey, you have a right to wish for that. That's your thing. My thing is that I really don't like being told what my character thinks. And so many things about the Warlord...again, the versions I see today, not whatever was in some book 15 years ago...simply scream "your character admires/obeys this other person's character." So in my mind that [I]is[/I] you dictating to me how to play. My only option is to mentally re-fluff it into magic (or something), which is exactly what you yourself refuse to do regarding magical healing. Be careful getting down from that high horse. It's a long drop. [/QUOTE]
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