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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Garthanos" data-source="post: 7627733" data-attributes="member: 82504">Thinking about a character is a form of creative work ... that work is thrown out the window without opportunity to develop, which happens way too often with your coin flipping game. By the time random chance picks the character you actually get to continue to develop well he is Bob 10 ... The initial investment is only going to part of it ... but it should be some of it. Flat you mean like going up a level and instantly having twice the staying power? The real D&D flat Tilted to high heaven . The chances heros have against mightier characters is teamwork but I guess you prefer flukes of dice not choice or tactics so that explains it.apparently by an illiterate who themselves never read the game. Somewhere in your progression you get someone intentionally misrepresenting or not reading.  (and you advocating for assuming it) Yup being considerate of other players who may have different tastes and tolerating them a bit... is totally metagaming and unfair. We probably should ask him what he meant though to be honest.That encounter happens a lot in stories the goal is to have the characters find something to admire in each other. To develop... but since you have coin flipping combat guess that story can never happen.The technical phrase is Rocket Tag combat I hear.</blockquote>