Menu
News
All News
Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
Pathfinder
Starfinder
Warhammer
2d20 System
Year Zero Engine
Industry News
Reviews
Dragon Reflections
Columns
Weekly Digests
Weekly News Digest
Freebies, Sales & Bundles
RPG Print News
RPG Crowdfunding News
Game Content
ENterplanetary DimENsions
Mythological Figures
Opinion
Worlds of Design
Peregrine's Next
RPG Evolution
Other Columns
From the Freelancing Frontline
Monster ENcyclopedia
WotC/TSR Alumni Look Back
4 Hours w/RSD (Ryan Dancey)
The Road to 3E (Jonathan Tweet)
Greenwood's Realms (Ed Greenwood)
Drawmij's TSR (Jim Ward)
Community
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Resources
Wiki
Pages
Latest activity
Media
New media
New comments
Search media
Downloads
Latest reviews
Search resources
EN Publishing
Store
EN5ider
Adventures in ZEITGEIST
Awfully Cheerful Engine
What's OLD is NEW
Judge Dredd & The Worlds Of 2000AD
War of the Burning Sky
Level Up: Advanced 5E
Events & Releases
Upcoming Events
Private Events
Featured Events
Socials!
Twitch
YouTube
Facebook (EN Publishing)
Facebook (EN World)
Twitter
Instagram
TikTok
Podcast
Features
Top 5 RPGs Compiled Charts 2004-Present
Adventure Game Industry Market Research Summary (RPGs) V1.0
Ryan Dancey: Acquiring TSR
Q&A With Gary Gygax
D&D Rules FAQs
TSR, WotC, & Paizo: A Comparative History
D&D Pronunciation Guide
Million Dollar TTRPG Kickstarters
Tabletop RPG Podcast Hall of Fame
Eric Noah's Unofficial D&D 3rd Edition News
D&D in the Mainstream
D&D & RPG History
About Morrus
Log in
Register
What's new
Search
Search
Search titles only
By:
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Menu
Log in
Register
Install the app
Install
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*Dungeons & Dragons
The perfect D&D edition (according to ENWORLD)
JavaScript is disabled. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding.
You are using an out of date browser. It may not display this or other websites correctly.
You should upgrade or use an
alternative browser
.
Reply to thread
Message
<blockquote data-quote="Guest 6801328" data-source="post: 7628127"><p>That's the funny thing about that range/orc example: you seem to assume that because the Ranger HATES orcs, he must cause intraparty conflict. Sounds to me like more dictation of how somebody must portray their character.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>You outed me. I'm actually Mike Mearls. Yes, I'm going to refuse to publish the Warlord because I don't want to have to be a jerk in my own game.</p><p></p><p>WTF?</p><p></p><p>There's this thing that I don't want in D&D. I hope it doesn't appear in D&D. If there's ever a survey, I will say, "No, thanks." And in internet forums, I express my opinion about it.</p><p></p><p>I say that about a lot of the options they present. </p><p></p><p>Have you? Have you ever filled out a WotC survey and said, "I don't like that part. Please don't include it." Have you ever posted on the forums and said, "I think that would be bad for the game."</p><p></p><p>If you are, then you are doing the exact thing you are accusing me of. Depriving other people of the way they want to play the game because of your own selfishness, or something like that. Right?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>As I've said before, interacting with the monsters to create an opening is fine. It's the part of about "commanding" others to strike...some variant of which which shows up in just about every version of this thing...that's not ok.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Lol. Fortunately this just amuses me, because we both know there's not going to be a 5e Warlord.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I'm not quite following what you are saying in the second part, largely because the only way that I can parse it seems to contradict the first part. But, yes, there's an archetype in a lot of myth, fiction, and history (or mythologized history) that is pretty much exactly the Warlord. I totally grant you that. And it's also my point. All those stories are most explicitly about a singular Hero. A character who heals with his inspiring personality, commands through natural leadership, and outsmarts the bad guys is called a Hero. So much of what I read about this class sounds like it's the Hero class. </p><p></p><p>You're going to deny that part, but if so you are being willfully blind to the arguments being made for and about them them. </p><p></p><p>For example, Aragorn is often held up as an example. And, yes, I would agree that Aragorn is modeled by a Warlord better than by Fighter or Ranger or whatever (which is ironic, no?). But the rest of the Fellowship were not co-equal with him. He was written to be "better" than anybody but the demi-god. And when I play The One Ring, we don't include Aragorn in the party. We're co-equals.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Guest 6801328, post: 7628127"] That's the funny thing about that range/orc example: you seem to assume that because the Ranger HATES orcs, he must cause intraparty conflict. Sounds to me like more dictation of how somebody must portray their character. You outed me. I'm actually Mike Mearls. Yes, I'm going to refuse to publish the Warlord because I don't want to have to be a jerk in my own game. WTF? There's this thing that I don't want in D&D. I hope it doesn't appear in D&D. If there's ever a survey, I will say, "No, thanks." And in internet forums, I express my opinion about it. I say that about a lot of the options they present. Have you? Have you ever filled out a WotC survey and said, "I don't like that part. Please don't include it." Have you ever posted on the forums and said, "I think that would be bad for the game." If you are, then you are doing the exact thing you are accusing me of. Depriving other people of the way they want to play the game because of your own selfishness, or something like that. Right? As I've said before, interacting with the monsters to create an opening is fine. It's the part of about "commanding" others to strike...some variant of which which shows up in just about every version of this thing...that's not ok. Lol. Fortunately this just amuses me, because we both know there's not going to be a 5e Warlord. I'm not quite following what you are saying in the second part, largely because the only way that I can parse it seems to contradict the first part. But, yes, there's an archetype in a lot of myth, fiction, and history (or mythologized history) that is pretty much exactly the Warlord. I totally grant you that. And it's also my point. All those stories are most explicitly about a singular Hero. A character who heals with his inspiring personality, commands through natural leadership, and outsmarts the bad guys is called a Hero. So much of what I read about this class sounds like it's the Hero class. You're going to deny that part, but if so you are being willfully blind to the arguments being made for and about them them. For example, Aragorn is often held up as an example. And, yes, I would agree that Aragorn is modeled by a Warlord better than by Fighter or Ranger or whatever (which is ironic, no?). But the rest of the Fellowship were not co-equal with him. He was written to be "better" than anybody but the demi-god. And when I play The One Ring, we don't include Aragorn in the party. We're co-equals. [/QUOTE]
Insert quotes…
Verification
Post reply
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*Dungeons & Dragons
The perfect D&D edition (according to ENWORLD)
Top