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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Tony Vargas" data-source="post: 7629105" data-attributes="member: 996">Nod.  SoD vs, say, the hp-attrition game, is like playing the Lotto vs running a Casino.  In 5e, a PC with 80 hps, a Cleric friend with Cure..Wounds & plenty of slots, and HD left un-used, is like the bank at Monte Carlo:  that goblin /might/ break the bank, but the odds are /really/ slim.  The PC making a save v insta-death, OTOH, is like betting the whole bank on a coin toss - no Casino would ever do that, because the law of large numbers is no longer on their side (though in 3e, if the PC is casting an optimized-DC SoD spell, the target is the one playing the lotto with his life).It's too trivial a topic to, by itself, make anyone a terrible person......but it is a tad spiteful to those who do like that thing, and have had a great time with the game while it included it.5e does actually have a pretty large shelf presence at this point - mostly the equivalent of APs.  But, it's /much/ clearer what's core you need to play the game - and it's not much: the PH. I'm sure.  It wouldn't make a lotta sense to put starships and rayguns in D&D …oh, no, wait.  <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />I'm not sure what you're on about there.  The edition war was a pretty nasty little phenom.  The game would've been a lot better off without it.I have pointed out that a lot of the justifications for edition warring put forth over the years, apply more to fans of 4e, today, yet they're /not/ edition warring against 5e.  (Classes and races 'missing' from the 4e PH1, for instance, saw print in as little as 9 months, and it was "too little, too late! Onward Edition Sol-ol-diers, Marching off to WAR!"  Classes missing from the 5e PH1? 5 years later, two are still in the dubious UA pipeline, and a third has gotten nothing more than a half-hearted hypothetical sub-class. No edition warring /against 5e/, though still revived warring against 4e if the issue is brought up, even obliquely, as it was in this thread.) Not relevant to ENWorld.  There is no lying on ENWorld.  Everyone always tells the truth here.  I was away from the hobby for about a year for health reasons, and, not sure if I'd ever be back, updated my profile & cleared my blocked list.  It's good to be back gaming - I ran two Wed in a row, and even got to play yesterday! - that's more gaming than I'd done in the preceding 13 months.  Back on ENWorld?  Well, as mixed as always, I guess. But I wouldn't be wasting time here if I didn't get /something/ out of it, I suppose......hmmm....</blockquote>

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