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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Guest 6801328" data-source="post: 7629427">I had to take a call just as I started responding to this, and I'm glad I did because I was about to lash out angrily.  Which is a fairly human response when somebody has just denigrated you (again).Ok....deep breath.Upthread you made a joking aside about laser guns in the game.  So please step through the following with me.  I was tempted to use, oh, maybe global warming as an analogue, but I'll stick to RPGs:1) First, do you think the inclusion of guns as an option in the DMG has increased the likelihood/frequency of guns appearing in the game?  For example, a player wants to use a gun, and although the DM doesn't love the idea, is persuaded "Well, it's in the DMG, so it can't be all bad."  Simple yes or no.  If yes, skip to #3.  Otherwise proceed to #2.2) Even if you think it does not (which would astonish me, but whatever) would you find it plausible that somebody else does believe that?  You may think they are wrong, but some other person does believe that the presence of official options increases their frequency.  Can you imagine that?  Does it make them a bad or selfish person for believing that?3) Would you find it plausible that somebody might believe that the inclusion of guns is detrimental to the game, even if that person isn't forced to use them?  Even if it never even shows up at their own table?  That is, that an increasing appearance of firearms could presage a shift away from the genre that D&D originally represented, leading to more and more technology and other "anachronisms" (for lack of a better word.)  Again, I'm not asking if you agree that this cause and effect will always unfold, but can you imagine that somebody might genuinely believe in it?4) If that person, who believes 1-3, speaks up...or had spoken up in 2014...and says, "Hey, I don't think guns should be an official option, not just because I don't want guns at my table but because it encourages a shift in a direction I think is bad for the game" are they spitefully trying to prevent other people from having fun?  And I'm really just looking for the answer to #4.</blockquote>

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