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<blockquote data-quote="I'm A Banana" data-source="post: 5702198" data-attributes="member: 2067"><p>The Internet is a horrible, horrible way to judge someone's intentions. You also can't debate people on their feelings. If people have a lot of problems, perhaps they just legitimately have a lot of problems. The options aren't limited to "Accept It or You've Got A Chip On Your Shoulder." There's a lot of room for people to talk about what they want out of a game, and how a given element doesn't meet that. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>If every character worked without any magic gear, a pixie wouldn't be required to re-size their own items, since a pixie not being able to use an item they found wouldn't be a problem. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>There can be limits on what a PC can do without "You cannot fly" being one of those limits. A game based on fantasy seems to me to inevitably have a character who can fly (pixie, or a bird-person, or a fighter mounted on a pegasus), so "You cannot fly", IMO, shouldn't be one of the things that defines what characters can do. The game should take flight into account from the get-go. Then you don't have to kludge like this. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I think all Monte was talking about was that you assumed magic items were a <em>reward</em>, and not an <em>assumption</em>, so a party without magic items was doing fine, and a party who DID get magic items would be a little exceptional, in certain circumstances, maybe.</p><p></p><p>And then you balanced monsters for a party without magic items. </p><p></p><p>4e is probably 90% of the way there already (Dark Sun!), so it's not like it would be that big of a change from the way the game works now.</p><p></p><p>I was just pointing out that a pixie character (or any oddly sized or shaped character) benefits from such a system, because you don't have to design your race to use items not made for them. They don't need to use magic items (no one does). Every once in a while there might be an item they can use, too, but even if there never is, it's not a game-breaker.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>That's what your wife keeps telling me. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="I'm A Banana, post: 5702198, member: 2067"] The Internet is a horrible, horrible way to judge someone's intentions. You also can't debate people on their feelings. If people have a lot of problems, perhaps they just legitimately have a lot of problems. The options aren't limited to "Accept It or You've Got A Chip On Your Shoulder." There's a lot of room for people to talk about what they want out of a game, and how a given element doesn't meet that. If every character worked without any magic gear, a pixie wouldn't be required to re-size their own items, since a pixie not being able to use an item they found wouldn't be a problem. There can be limits on what a PC can do without "You cannot fly" being one of those limits. A game based on fantasy seems to me to inevitably have a character who can fly (pixie, or a bird-person, or a fighter mounted on a pegasus), so "You cannot fly", IMO, shouldn't be one of the things that defines what characters can do. The game should take flight into account from the get-go. Then you don't have to kludge like this. I think all Monte was talking about was that you assumed magic items were a [I]reward[/I], and not an [I]assumption[/I], so a party without magic items was doing fine, and a party who DID get magic items would be a little exceptional, in certain circumstances, maybe. And then you balanced monsters for a party without magic items. 4e is probably 90% of the way there already (Dark Sun!), so it's not like it would be that big of a change from the way the game works now. I was just pointing out that a pixie character (or any oddly sized or shaped character) benefits from such a system, because you don't have to design your race to use items not made for them. They don't need to use magic items (no one does). Every once in a while there might be an item they can use, too, but even if there never is, it's not a game-breaker. That's what your wife keeps telling me. ;) [/QUOTE]
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