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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Greenfield" data-source="post: 6586578" data-attributes="member: 6669384">Yeah, that's an odd one.  Kind of like casting Darkness to let the PCs see at night.  Counter intuitive, but it works.If I was to asked to write up the Plane of Shadows it would be a world in black and white, where the actual light source can never be seen, but it's harsh and glaring and leaves shadows everywhere, shadows of objects in this world as well as of items in the real world.  You can't actually *see* the real world from there, but you can sort of figure out the relationship by the shadows it casts.But hey, that's just me.You want a strangely correct rule?  According to the Suffocation rules, if a person is under water and isn't holding their breat they need to make a CON check, DC 10.  If it fails they go to zero hit points.So, when your friend is negative and dying, shove his head in cold water or throw water in his face, enough to cause him to choke and cough.  He intentionally fails his CON check and his hit points are *raised* to zero.  He's now conscious, though in the walking-wounded category.  Hey, it works for boxers, doesn't it? <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></blockquote>