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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Andrew Moreton" data-source="post: 8437650" data-attributes="member: 6920268">Within the current description of creating multiple planes in the same planet slot there is no difference between any of the planes. So there what is a planet and a moon is entirely semantics. As written a trivial series of skill checks lets you combine any 2 planes in any slot. You could easily produce house rules which designate some planes as 'moons' and as a result give those planes a lesser effect or something . That is something I did not consider and would have provided even more complications.As it is a I produced an escalating series of skill checks to make mass manipulation a bit more difficult , they still did it though. I did draw the line at remaking the solar system as a Binary System or even a Kempler Rossette. If I remember correctly most slots had 2 or even 3 planes in a slot and creative use of skill boosters and dice roll fixing was needed to finish their manipulation. The important thing being to make sure the level of planar manipulation the GM and Players want is achievable with some difficulty so they have to work for their victory but can succeed , so the difficulties should be based on the player groups skills. I sat down and worked out what the best rolls the characters could get with all the boosts was and designed it so that achieving their perfect vision would push them to the edge of their abilitiesFor house rules there are a lot of things which could be added depending on what those house rules are.I did implement Nic's favoured planes without the changes the pc's had persuaded the Ob to make. I did this because Nic is ALWAYS RIGHT and anyone who disagree's with him is WRONG and probably a TRAITOR to the cause. The players changes were discredited in his mind not just because they were not the way he saw things but because his enemies had helped add them and therefore there was probably a plan to destroy his PERFECT VISION.  I always tried to make Nic seem reasonable up until push came to shove then his ianability to change , compromise or negotiate on signifigant matters came to the fore. If he is reasonable and compromises it reduces his viability as a villain as a reasonable world could be reached, I think it helps if the players think the Ob is close to being reasonable but when it comes down to the Wire Nic as a ghost will not bend or change and as his history shows he has never really been principled in his methods.  This UNYIELDING SELF-RIGHTEOUSNESS explains his movement to the watchmaker solution in the final act as he realises all these fools lack his VISION and only he can make everything right. (Capitals in Nic's mind)</blockquote>

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