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<blockquote data-quote="Voadam" data-source="post: 9746078" data-attributes="member: 2209">With a response of intrusive involved patrons ordering the PC around are not inherent in the 5e warlock concept.Patrons demanding active service is one story option, not the only one. Besides the pacting with an indifferent Old One there are many other options as well. Pacts can be paid off with the soul at death or first born in the future. Or they could already be paid off entirely in the past and the warlock powers are the reward. Or the pact could even be made by past generations giving you Elric big magic to draw on. Or again Elric could slay in the name of the demon lord when fighting foes &quot;Blood and Souls for Arioch!&quot; Or maybe you won a game of cards with an Archfey and this was how they paid you. Maybe one of your three wishes from a djinni was for magic. Maybe you go Dr. Strange and leave the pacts vague but invoke the patron beings with some of your magic &quot;Crimson Bands of Cyttorak!&quot;Lots of D&amp;D warlock pact story options where the patron does not tell you what to do now.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Voadam, post: 9746078, member: 2209"] With a response of intrusive involved patrons ordering the PC around are not inherent in the 5e warlock concept. Patrons demanding active service is one story option, not the only one. Besides the pacting with an indifferent Old One there are many other options as well. Pacts can be paid off with the soul at death or first born in the future. Or they could already be paid off entirely in the past and the warlock powers are the reward. Or the pact could even be made by past generations giving you Elric big magic to draw on. Or again Elric could slay in the name of the demon lord when fighting foes "Blood and Souls for Arioch!" Or maybe you won a game of cards with an Archfey and this was how they paid you. Maybe one of your three wishes from a djinni was for magic. Maybe you go Dr. Strange and leave the pacts vague but invoke the patron beings with some of your magic "Crimson Bands of Cyttorak!" Lots of D&D warlock pact story options where the patron does not tell you what to do now. [/QUOTE]

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